From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:34:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54D26620.40902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150204140259.GR3032@redhat.com>
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On 02/04/2015 07:02 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>
>> I think fixing this for migration might simplify stuff for users a lot as well;
>> the choice of whether libvirt does tunneling or not and what it means
>> for how block migration happens etc can get very confusing.
>
> Yes, and not helped by the fact that no single current impl offers all
> desired features - they are all partially overlapping sets :-(
>> Some things to keep in mind:
>> 1) The current patch from Liang Li doing multi threaded compression
>> It just strikes me as an exmaple of another type of filter in the migration
>> stream.
>
> Yes, that does make sense in that way,
>
>> 2) Postcopy and fault tolerance need a bidirectional channel; and that back
>> channel tends to be small messages.
>
> TLS will require bidirectional channels too in order to perform the
> handshake. SASL will require bidirectional channels too. So this
> seems rather inevitable.
>
>> 3) I'd considered making a separate socket/fd for passing page data
>> in the hope of maybe making that page take data via splice; but am not
>> sure yet.
Another thing to think about - should migration to file be something
that can be encrypted? There, you don't have the luxury of a
bidirectional channel, but securing the machine state so that only an
authenticated user can decrypt to reload the state later sounds like
another benefit that might be possible.
--
Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-04 18:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-04 11:32 [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 13:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 13:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:34 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 15:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 15:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 16:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05 14:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-02-05 14:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-02-05 14:45 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 13:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:55 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 16:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 16:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 20:41 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 21:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-04 14:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:48 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-02-04 14:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 18:34 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2015-02-05 9:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-04 14:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-06 17:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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