From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/37] blockdev: Allow creation of BDS trees without BB
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:29:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54D8FC70.5050107@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54D8F9D2.5000506@redhat.com>
On 2015-02-09 at 13:17, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 02/09/2015 10:11 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>> If the "id" field is missing from the options given to blockdev-add,
>> just omit the BlockBackend and create the BlockDriverState tree alone.
>>
>> However, if "id" is missing, "node-name" must be specified; otherwise,
>> the BDS tree would no longer be accessible.
>>
> Well, if we ever revived Jeff Cody's attempt at auto-assigning node
> names (so that we never have an unnamed node), then this patch will have
> to be partially reverted at that time (omitting id and node-name then
> results in a BDS with an auto-assigned node name and no BB). But that's
> a decision for that series (if we ever revive it); for now, your policy
> is just fine.
>
>> Signed-off-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>> ---
>> blockdev.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
>> qapi/block-core.json | 13 +++++++++----
>> tests/qemu-iotests/087 | 2 +-
>> tests/qemu-iotests/087.out | 4 ++--
>> 4 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
>
>
>> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
>> @@ -1260,9 +1260,12 @@
>> #
>> # @driver: block driver name
>> # @id: #optional id by which the new block device can be referred to.
>> -# This is a required option on the top level of blockdev-add, and
>> -# currently not allowed on any other level.
>> -# @node-name: #optional the name of a block driver state node (Since 2.0)
>> +# This option is only allowed on the top level of blockdev-add.
>> +# A BlockBackend will be created by blockdev-add if and only if
>> +# this option is given.
> I know what you mean here, but it feels a tiny bit like we are leaking
> implementation details. Would it be any better to state that: "A
> guest-visible device will be created by blockdev-add if and only if this
> option is given"?
Well, it's not a guest-visible device; a BlockBackend is the connector
between a BDS tree and a guest-visible device.
However, I thought about the same thing, but there are already
occurrences of "block driver state", so I decided to just go with it (I
mean, we could use "block backend", but I don't know if that's really
better).
Max
> That is, instead of BlockDriverState and BlockBackend
> (which are internal naming conventions), should our documentation be
> favoring "node within a tree of host-accessible resources that provide
> the media content to a guest device" and "guest-visible device"? But
> just in typing that out, it gets tedious, and even if we do make such a
> change in documentation, it would be better to do it over all existing
> .json files rather than just this patch. Furthermore, we may use
> BlockBackend for things like NBD fleecing operations, which really
> aren't guest-visible devices. So my idle ramblings here don't affect my
> R-b for the patch as-is.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-09 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-09 17:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/37] blockdev: BlockBackend and media Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/37] blockdev: Allow creation of BDS trees without BB Max Reitz
2015-02-09 18:17 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 18:29 ` Max Reitz [this message]
2015-03-04 13:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:04 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:23 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 21:44 ` Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/37] iotests: Only create BB if necessary Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/37] hw/block/fdc: Implement tray status Max Reitz
2015-02-09 18:23 ` Eric Blake
2015-03-04 14:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:07 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 22:06 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-05 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-16 13:36 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-16 15:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-03-16 15:48 ` Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/37] hw/usb-storage: Check whether BB is inserted Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:07 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:24 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:41 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:52 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 14:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-03-04 14:58 ` Max Reitz
2015-03-04 22:06 ` Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/37] block: Fix BB AIOCB AioContext without BDS Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/37] block: Make bdrv_is_inserted() return a bool Max Reitz
2015-02-09 18:29 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/37] block: Add blk_is_available() Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/37] block: Make bdrv_is_inserted() recursive Max Reitz
2015-02-09 19:16 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/37] block/quorum: Implement bdrv_is_inserted() Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/37] block: Move guest_block_size into BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/37] block: Remove wr_highest_sector from BlockAcctStats Max Reitz
2015-02-09 19:20 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/37] block: Move BlockAcctStats into BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/37] block: Move I/O status and error actions into BB Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/37] block: Add BlockBackendRootState Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/37] block: Make some BB functions fall back to BBRS Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/37] block: Fail requests to empty BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-02-25 18:18 ` Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/37] block: Prepare remaining BB functions for NULL BDS Max Reitz
2015-02-09 20:47 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/37] blockdev: Use BB for blockdev-backup transaction Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/37] block: Add blk_insert_bs() Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/37] block: Prepare for NULL BDS Max Reitz
2015-02-09 21:21 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/37] blockdev: Do not create BDS for empty drive Max Reitz
2015-02-09 21:32 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/37] blockdev: Pull out blockdev option extraction Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/37] blockdev: Allow more options for BB-less BDS tree Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/37] block: Add blk_remove_bs() Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/37] blockdev: Add blockdev-open-tray Max Reitz
2015-02-09 22:01 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/37] blockdev: Add blockdev-close-tray Max Reitz
2015-02-09 22:18 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/37] blockdev: Add blockdev-remove-medium Max Reitz
2015-02-09 22:21 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/37] blockdev: Add blockdev-insert-medium Max Reitz
2015-02-09 22:23 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/37] blockdev: Implement eject with basic operations Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 30/37] blockdev: Implement change " Max Reitz
2015-02-09 22:28 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 31/37] block: Inquire tray state before tray-moved events Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 32/37] qmp: Introduce blockdev-change-medium Max Reitz
2015-02-09 23:09 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 33/37] hmp: Use blockdev-change-medium for change command Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 34/37] blockdev: read-only-mode for blockdev-change-medium Max Reitz
2015-02-09 23:15 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 35/37] hmp: Add read-only-mode option to change command Max Reitz
2015-02-09 23:17 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 36/37] iotests: More options for VM.add_drive() Max Reitz
2015-02-09 17:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 37/37] iotests: Add test for change-related QMP commands Max Reitz
2015-02-10 0:06 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-10 20:37 ` Max Reitz
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