From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@parallels.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Juan quin >> Juan Jose Quintela Carreira" <quintela@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] migration: add migration/dirty-bitmap.c
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:12:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E392A1.5030604@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E38C4B.5040702@redhat.com>
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On 02/17/2015 11:45 AM, John Snow wrote:
>>>
>> Hmm.. No? bitmap is attached using bdrv_lookup_bs(name, name, errp),
>> which can find device with this name. qemu option -drive
>> file=...,id=disk creates blk named 'disk' and attached node with no name.
>>
>>
>
> Very good point -- We use the device name as a convenience shortcut to
> the first node. So the node a bitmap is attached to might in fact not
> have a name.
Or, if we revisit Jeff's proposal to always auto-name every node, then
you'd never have a node without a name. Ultimately, libvirt should be
using named nodes, but we're not there yet.
>
> I see what you mean.
>
> Hmm. So you propose, on the sending side:
>
> (1) Use this node's name, if available
> (2) Fall back to the backend/"device" name, if present,
> (3) Do not send the bitmap if neither names are present (THIS scenario
> should be impossible to achieve and should trigger an error.)
Seems okay to me.
>
> What about on the receiving end? To which node(s) do we attach the
> bitmap? I assume:
>
> (1) Try to find a node with this name and attach it there,
> (2) Fall back to attaching it to the root node of a device/BB with this
> name
> (3) If neither are present, abort.
>
That would also work. Since node names and device names share the same
namespace, it should always resolve to the correct node.
> Is that right? If so, it sounds serviceable to me, but keep in mind that
> bdrv_lookup_bs() on the receiving end will default to #2 first before #1.
Except that if a device is named "foo", then no node has that name, so
it is unambiguous that you meant the node attached to device "foo".
>
> Overall, this makes the migration very "fuzzy" in terms of which bitmaps
> will go where, and the onus is really on the user (or management tool)
> to keep trees compatibly similar for the purposes of bitmap migration.
>
> I still wonder if making the exportation of names more explicit in terms
> of a flag ("this name is a node-name", "this name is a backend-name")
> might still be of use for providing more rigid and knowable migration
> semantics.
>
> Might as well go ahead with your suggestion for now, and we'll see if
> anyone from migration or libvirt groups has a reason not to do it that
> way. I don't have any concrete reasons.
>
> --js
>
>
>
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Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-27 10:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 0/8] Dirty bitmaps migration Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] qmp: print dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-01-27 16:17 ` Eric Blake
2015-01-27 16:23 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:28 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 2/8] hbitmap: serialization Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:29 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/8] block: BdrvDirtyBitmap serialization interface Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:29 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 4/8] block: add dirty-dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:30 ` John Snow
2015-02-12 10:51 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 5/8] block: add bdrv_dirty_bitmap_enabled() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:30 ` John Snow
2015-02-12 10:54 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-12 16:22 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 6/8] block: add bdrv_next_dirty_bitmap() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:31 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] migration: add dirty parameter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-01-27 16:20 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-04 14:42 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:32 ` John Snow
2015-01-27 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] migration: add migration/dirty-bitmap.c Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-10 21:33 ` John Snow
2015-02-13 8:19 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-13 9:06 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-13 17:32 ` John Snow
2015-02-13 17:41 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-13 20:22 ` John Snow
2015-02-16 12:06 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-16 18:18 ` John Snow
2015-02-16 18:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-17 8:54 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-02-17 18:45 ` John Snow
2015-02-17 19:12 ` Eric Blake [this message]
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