qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
To: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, kraxel@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
	quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, hare@suse.de,
	imammedo@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	leon.alrae@imgtec.com, aurelien@aurel32.net, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 13/25] hw/acpi: remove from root bus 0 the crs resources used by other busses.
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 20:32:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54FC95C3.3010507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150308182610.GA18864@morn.localdomain>

On 03/08/2015 08:26 PM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:51:42PM +0200, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
>> On 03/08/2015 06:13 PM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
>>> If I read this correctly, it looks like a machine with two root buses
>>> and 20 devices, each with one memory range and one io range, would end
>>> up with 40 CRS ranges (ie, a CRS range for every resource).
>> Correct.
>>
>> As Michael pointed out in another thread, the firmware is considered
>> guest code and QEMU cannot assume anything on how the resources are
>> assigned. This is why this solution was chosen.
>>
>> However we have two things that make the situation a little better.
>> 1. The PXB implementation includes a pci-bridge and all devices are automatically
>>     attached to the secondary bus, in this way we have one IO/MEM range per extra root bus.
>
> Out of curiosity, does the PXB implementation add the pci-bridge just
> to simplify the IO/MEM range, or are there other technical reasons for
> it?
We have another elephant there :) -> pci hotplug.
All the "free" memory ranges are assigned to bus 0, this will leave
the pxb buses without the hotplug capability.
Using a PCI bridge will give us some IO/MEM ranges for hotplug: the ones created
because of minimum requirement by PCI spec and not used currently by any devices.

>
>> 2. On top of this series we can add a merge algorithm that will bring together
>>     consecutive ranges. This series does not include this optimization and it
>>     focuses on the correctness.
>>
>>    It also
>>> looks like this furthers the requirement that the guest firmware
>>> assign the PCI resources prior to QEMU being able to generate the ACPI
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> Am I correct?  If so, that doesn't sound ideal.
>> You are correct, however is not that bad because we have the following sequence:
>>   - Early in the boot sequence the bios scans the PCI buses and assigns IO/MEM ranges
>>   - At this moment all resources needed by QEMU are present in the configuration space.
>>   - At the end of the boot sequence the BIOS queries the ACPI tables and *only then*
>>     the tables are computed.
>>
>> I think we use that implicitly for other features, anyway, it looks like an elegant
>> solution with no real drawbacks. (Our assumptions are safe)
>
> Thank you for the clarification.  I understand that it works, but I've
> never been that comfortable with the QEMU<->firmware dance with PCI
> resources.  I do understand that the alternatives have as many or more
> problems though.  So, I'm not objecting to this implementation.
No problem, thank you and your review is much appreciated as always,
Marcel

>
> Cheers,
> -Kevin
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-08 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-08 11:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 00/25] hw/pc: implement multiple primary busses for pc machines Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 01/25] acpi: fix aml_equal term implementation Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:28   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 11:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-09 12:26       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 14:46         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 02/25] acpi: add aml_or() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09  7:58   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09  9:22     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 03/25] acpi: add aml_add() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 04/25] acpi: add aml_lless() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09  8:03   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 05/25] acpi: add aml_index() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-03-09 11:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-09 11:37       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 06/25] acpi: add aml_shiftleft() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 07/25] acpi: add aml_shiftright() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 08/25] acpi: add aml_increment() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09  8:08   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09  8:16   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 09/25] acpi: add aml_while() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09  8:20   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 10/25] hw/acpi: add support for multiple root busses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:00     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 11/25] hw/apci: add _PRT method for extra PCI " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 17:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-10 17:26     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10 17:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-11  1:06         ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 12/25] hw/acpi: add _CRS method for extra " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:14     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 13/25] hw/acpi: remove from root bus 0 the crs resources used by other busses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 16:13   ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-08 17:51     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 18:26       ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-08 18:32         ` Marcel Apfelbaum [this message]
2015-03-08 18:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-08 18:46       ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-03-09  8:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-10 13:09           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 14/25] hw/pci: move pci bus related code to separate files Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 15/25] hw/pci: made pci_bus_is_root a PCIBusClass method Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 16/25] hw/pci: made pci_bus_num " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 17/25] hw/pci: introduce TYPE_PCI_MAIN_HOST_BRIDGE interface Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 18/25] hw/pci: removed 'rootbus nr is 0' assumption from qmp_pci_query Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 19/25] hw/pci: implement iteration over multiple host bridges Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 20/25] hw/pci: introduce PCI Expander Bridge (PXB) Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 21/25] hw/pci: inform bios if the system has more than one pci bridge Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 22/25] hw/pci: piix - suport multiple host bridges Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 23/25] hw/pxb: add map_irq func Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 24/25] hw/pci_bus: add support for NUMA nodes Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-08 11:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 25/25] hw/pxb: add numa_node parameter Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09  7:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 for-2.3 00/25] hw/pc: implement multiple primary busses for pc machines Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09  9:20   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 10:18     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 10:21       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 14:19         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 16:26           ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-09 16:55             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-03-09 19:21               ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10  6:23                 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2015-03-10 11:03                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-03-10  8:36                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=54FC95C3.3010507@redhat.com \
    --to=marcel@redhat.com \
    --cc=agraf@suse.de \
    --cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
    --cc=amit.shah@redhat.com \
    --cc=aurelien@aurel32.net \
    --cc=hare@suse.de \
    --cc=imammedo@redhat.com \
    --cc=kevin@koconnor.net \
    --cc=kraxel@redhat.com \
    --cc=leon.alrae@imgtec.com \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qemu-ppc@nongnu.org \
    --cc=quintela@redhat.com \
    --cc=rth@twiddle.net \
    --cc=seabios@seabios.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).