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From: zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: hangaohuai@huawei.com, Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	yunhong.jiang@intel.com, eddie.dong@intel.com,
	peter.huangpeng@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	luis@cs.umu.se
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/1] Rolling stats on colo
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:11:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54FFB25B.9010603@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150306183021.GE2507@work-vm>

Hi Dave,

Sorry for the late reply :)

On 2015/3/7 2:30, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * zhanghailiang (zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com) wrote:
>> On 2015/3/5 21:31, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
>>> From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>    I'm getting COLO running on a couple of our machines here
>>> and wanted to see what was actually going on, so I merged
>>> in my recent rolling-stats code:
>>>
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-03/msg00648.html
>>>
>>> with the following patch, and now I get on the primary side,
>>> info migrate shows me:
>>>
>>> capabilities: xbzrle: off rdma-pin-all: off auto-converge: off zero-blocks: off colo: on
>>> Migration status: colo
>>> total time: 0 milliseconds
>>> colo checkpoint (ms): Min/Max: 0, 10000 Mean: -1.1415868e-13 (Weighted: 4.3136025e-158) Count: 4020 Values: 0@1425561742237, 0@1425561742300, 0@1425561742363, 0@1425561742426, 0@1425561742489, 0@1425561742555, 0@1425561742618, 0@1425561742681, 0@1425561742743, 0@1425561742824
>>> colo paused time (ms): Min/Max: 55, 2789 Mean: 63.9 (Weighted: 76.243584) Count: 4019 Values: 62@1425561742237, 62@1425561742300, 62@1425561742363, 62@1425561742426, 61@1425561742489, 65@1425561742555, 62@1425561742618, 62@1425561742681, 61@1425561742743, 80@1425561742824
>>> colo checkpoint size: Min/Max: 18351, 2.1731606e+08 Mean: 150096.4 (Weighted: 127195.56) Count: 4020 Values: 211246@1425561742238, 186622@1425561742301, 227662@1425561742364, 219454@1425561742428, 268702@1425561742490, 96334@1425561742556, 47086@1425561742619, 42982@1425561742682, 55294@1425561742744, 145582@1425561742825
>>>
>>> which suggests I've got a problem with the packet comparison; but that's
>>> a separate issue I'll look at.
>>>
>>
>> There is an obvious mistake we have made in proxy, the macro 'IPS_UNTRACKED_BIT' in colo-patch-for-kernel.patch should be 14,
>> so please fix it before do the follow test. Sorry for this low-grade mistake, we should do full test before issue it. ;)
>
> No, that's OK; we all make them.
>
> However, that didn't cure my problem; but after a bit of experimentation I now have
> COLO working pretty well; thanks for the help!
>
>     1) I had to disable IPv6 in the guest; it doesn't look like the
>     conntrack is coping with IPv6 ICMPV6, and on our test network
>     we're getting a few 10s of those each second, so it's constant
>     miscompares (they seem to be neighbour broadcasts and multicast
>     stuff).
>

Hmm, yes, the proxy code in github does not support ICMPV6 packet comparing.
We will add this in the future.

>     2) It looks like virtio-net is sending ARPs - possibly every time
>     that a snapshot is loaded;  it's not the 'qemu' announce-self code,
>     (I added some debug there and it's not being called); and ARPs
>     cause a miscompare - so you get a continuous streem of miscompares
>     because a miscompare triggers a new snapshot, that sends more ARPs.
>     I solved this by switching to e1000.
>

I didn't meet this problem, i used tcpdump to capture the net packets and
did not found any ARPs after VM load in slave.
Maybe i missed something, Are there any servers/commands that net related run in VM?
And what's your tcpdump command line?

>     3) The other problem with virtio is it's occasionally triggering a
>     'virtio: error trying to map MMIO memory' from qemu;  I'm not sure
>     why, the state COLO sends over should always be consistent.
>
>     4) With the e1000 setup; connections are generally fairly responsive,
>     but sshing into the guest takes *ages* (10s of seconds).  I'm not sure
>     why, because a curl to a web server seems OK (less than a second)
>     and once the ssh is open it's pretty responsive.
>

Er, have you tried to ssh into the guest without in COLO mode? Is it also taking a long time?
I have encounter a similar situation when the slave VM is faked dead which 'info status' is 'running',
but VM can not respond to keyboad from VNC. Maybe there is some thing wrong with device status, i
will look into it.

>     5) I've seen one instance of;
>        'qemu-system-x86_64: block/raw-posix.c:836: handle_aiocb_rw: Assertion `p - buf == aiocb->aio_nbytes' failed.'
>        on the primary side.
>
> Stats for a mostly idle guest are now showing:
>
> colo checkpoint (ms): Min/Max: 0, 10004 Mean: 1592.1 (Weighted: 1806.214) Count: 227 Values: 1650@1425666160229, 1661@1425666161998, 1662@1425666163736, 1687@1425666165524, 811@1425666166438, 788@1425666167298, 1619@1425666168992, 1699@1425666170793, 2711@1425666173602, 1633@1425666175315
> colo paused time (ms): Min/Max: 58, 2975 Mean: 90.3 (Weighted: 94.109752) Count: 227 Values: 107@1425666160337, 75@1425666162074, 100@1425666163837, 102@1425666165627, 71@1425666166510, 74@1425666167373, 101@1425666169094, 97@1425666170891, 79@1425666173682, 97@1425666175413
> colo checkpoint size: Min/Max: 212252, 1.9241972e+08 Mean: 5569622.6 (Weighted: 4826386.5) Count: 227 Values: 5998892@1425666160230, 4660988@1425666161999, 6002996@1425666163737, 5945540@1425666165525, 4833356@1425666166439, 5510606@1425666167299, 5793692@1425666168993, 5584388@1425666170794, 7016684@1425666173603, 4349084@1425666175316
>
> So, one checkpoint every ~1.5 seconds; that's just with an
> ssh connected and a script doing a 'curl' to it's http
> repeatedly.   Running 'top' on the ssh with a fast refresh
> brings the checkpoints much faster; I guess that's because
> the output of top is quite random.
>

Yes, it is a known problem, actually, not only 'top' command, every command with
random output may result in continuous miscompare.
Besides, the data transferred through SSH will be encrypted, which makes things more bad.

One way to solve this problem maybe:
if we detect a continuous stream of miscompares, we fall back to Microcheckpointing mode (periodic checkpoint).

>> To be honest, the proxy part in github is not integrated, we have cut it just for easy review and understand, so there may be some mistakes.
>
> Yes, that's OK; and I've had a few kernel crashes; normally
> when the qemu crashes, the kernel doesn't really like it;
> but that's OK, I'm sure it will get better.
>

Hmm, thanks very much for your feedback, we are making our efforts to better it... ;)

> I added the following to make my debug easier; which is how
> I found the IPv6 problem.
>
> diff --git a/xt_PMYCOLO.c b/xt_PMYCOLO.c
> index 9e50b62..13c0b48 100644
> --- a/xt_PMYCOLO.c
> +++ b/xt_PMYCOLO.c
> @@ -1072,7 +1072,7 @@ resolve_master_ct(struct sk_buff *skb, unsigned int dataoff,
>          h = nf_conntrack_find_get(&init_net, NF_CT_DEFAULT_ZONE, &tuple);
>
>          if (h == NULL) {
> -               pr_dbg("can't find master's ct for slaver packet\n");
> +               pr_dbg("can't find master's ct for slaver packet (pf/l3num=%d protonum=%d)\n", l3num, protonum);
>                  return NULL;
>          }
>
> @@ -1092,7 +1092,7 @@ nf_conntrack_slaver_in(u_int8_t pf, unsigned int hooknum,
>          /* rcu_read_lock()ed by nf_hook_slow */
>          l3proto = __nf_ct_l3proto_find(pf);
>          if (l3proto->get_l4proto(skb, skb_network_offset(skb), &dataoff, &protonum) <= 0) {
> -               pr_dbg("slaver: l3proto not prepared to track yet or error occurred\n");
> +               pr_dbg("slaver: l3proto not prepared to track yet or error occurred (pf=%d)\n", pf);
>                  NF_CT_STAT_INC_ATOMIC(&init_net, error);
>                  NF_CT_STAT_INC_ATOMIC(&init_net, invalid);
>                  goto out;
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> zhanghailiang
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>>
>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dr. David Alan Gilbert (1):
>>>    COLO: Add primary side rolling statistics
>>>
>>>   hmp.c                         | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>   include/migration/migration.h |  3 +++
>>>   migration/colo.c              | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>>   migration/migration.c         | 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>   qapi-schema.json              | 11 ++++++++++-
>>>   5 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
>
> .
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-11  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-05 13:31 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/1] Rolling stats on colo Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-05 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/1] COLO: Add primary side rolling statistics Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-06  1:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/1] Rolling stats on colo zhanghailiang
2015-03-06  1:52   ` zhanghailiang
2015-03-06 18:30   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-09  2:37     ` Wen Congyang
2015-03-09  8:55       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-09  9:01         ` Wen Congyang
2015-03-11  3:11     ` zhanghailiang [this message]
2015-03-11  9:06       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-11  9:31         ` zhanghailiang
2015-03-11 10:07           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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