From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com,
Ben Warren <ben@skyportsystems.com>,
qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] qemu-options: Do not show -enable-kvm and -enable-hax in the docs anymore
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 06:40:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54dfe708-cccf-c628-753f-692c83391ec4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97504b42-9ebe-45c5-6ff3-b43102c8374a@redhat.com>
On 25.06.2018 20:26, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 25/06/2018 19:30, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>> Attentive distros could even replace the wrapper script by a link.
>>> If they are okay with replacing the "KVM only" semantics with "KVM or
>>> TCG", which I think is generally worse.
>>
>> If we can't get agreement on what's the right default for each
>> QEMU binary, I think that's yet another reason to document that
>> upstream QEMU won't guarantee ABI compatibility if -accel is
>> omitted.
>
> Before that we should ask what the benefit is in changing the default
> for qemu-system-*. Nobody is using it in practice to start QEMU with
> KVM enabled...
That's certainly not true. I've seen a couple of times already that
people ask on IRC why their guests are running so slow, and if you ask
them about their command line, it's obvious that they simply were not
aware of "-accel" / "-enable-kvm" yet.
<semi-sarcastic>
Maybe we simply should add a "--verbose" command line option that people
can use to diagnose their problems:
$ qemu-system-x86_64 --verbose
QEMU emulator version 2.12.50
Using 'tcg' accelerator. Use '-accel kvm' to speed things up.
Machine type is 'pc-i440fx-3.0'. Use 'q35' for a more modern machine.
....
</semi-sarcastic>
Cheers,
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-26 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-13 5:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Clean up accelerator options Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Replace '-machine accel=xyz' with '-accel xyz' Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:20 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-13 12:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 12:53 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 13:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 14:12 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 16:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Replace '-enable-kvm' with '-accel kvm' in docs and help texts Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qemu-options: Improve the documentation of '-accel' and '-machine accel=...' Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] qemu-options: Do not show -enable-kvm and -enable-hax in the docs anymore Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 12:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-13 13:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 15:11 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 15:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-13 15:44 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-13 16:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-19 15:15 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-19 16:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-22 18:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-22 19:19 ` Thomas Huth
2018-06-22 19:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-22 21:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 6:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-25 10:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 17:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-25 18:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-25 19:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 5:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-26 12:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 13:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-26 16:06 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 16:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 8:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-27 14:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 4:40 ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2018-06-26 7:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-06-26 12:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-26 16:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 8:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-13 13:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Clean up accelerator options Stefan Hajnoczi
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