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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@parallels.com>,
	"famz >> Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"armbru >> Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 01/17] docs: incremental backup documentation
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:45:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550054F0.9060906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55005477.7000006@redhat.com>



On 03/11/2015 10:43 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 03/11/2015 08:19 AM, John Snow wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/11/2015 09:43 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 06:19:47PM -0500, John Snow wrote:
>>>> +## Bitmap Modes
>>>> +
>>>> +* A Bitmap can be "enabled" (tracking writes, the default) or
>>>> "disabled"
>>>> +(read-only, I/O is ignored.) This state is currently only changed
>>>> internally
>>>> +for the purposes of migration, and otherwise remains enabled.
>>>
>>>   From a QMP API perspective this information is not relevant.  The
>>> documentation is clearer without the concept of enabled/disabled.
>>>
>>
>> Hm ... I suppose; If you want all mention of this gone from user view, I
>> should actually remove this status field from the query, too. It is
>> entirely possible to have a state where the bitmap is not frozen, but it
>> is disabled (migration, perhaps others in the future?) so I left the
>> status visible to the user for now.
>>
>> libvirt et al could likely rely on the migration status to know not to
>> manipulate bitmaps, but having that status information directly in the
>> bitmap didn't bother me.
>
> With a back-compat perspective, it's easier to hide the field now and
> add it later if we discover that it would have been useful to expose,
> than it is to expose it now and then have to support it forever even
> though no one uses it.  I'm not yet sure if libvirt can make use of
> knowing whether a bitmap is frozen/disabled.
>

Makes sense. I suspect I will leave the frozen status there, though, 
because applying an operation to a frozen bitmap WILL result in an 
error, and it would be nice to be able to avoid that scenario instead of 
it being a hidden status that sometimes fails your commands.

Granted, it is only currently in this status while it is being USED for 
a job, so it may not be mechanically useful...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-11 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-02 23:19 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/17] block: transactionless incremental backup series John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/17] docs: incremental backup documentation John Snow
2015-03-03 15:28   ` Max Reitz
2015-03-11 13:43   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-11 14:19     ` John Snow
2015-03-11 14:43       ` Eric Blake
2015-03-11 14:45         ` John Snow [this message]
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/17] qapi: Add optional field "name" to block dirty bitmap John Snow
2015-03-11 15:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/17] qmp: Ensure consistent granularity type John Snow
2015-03-11 15:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/17] qmp: Add block-dirty-bitmap-add and block-dirty-bitmap-remove John Snow
2015-03-11 13:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-11 14:23     ` John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/17] block: Introduce bdrv_dirty_bitmap_granularity() John Snow
2015-03-11 15:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/17] hbitmap: add hbitmap_merge John Snow
2015-03-11 15:43   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/17] block: Add bitmap disabled status John Snow
2015-03-11 16:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/17] block: Add bitmap successors John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/17] qmp: Add support of "dirty-bitmap" sync mode for drive-backup John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/17] qmp: add block-dirty-bitmap-clear John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/17] qmp: Add dirty bitmap status fields in query-block John Snow
2015-03-11 16:54   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/17] block: add BdrvDirtyBitmap documentation John Snow
2015-03-02 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/17] block: Ensure consistent bitmap function prototypes John Snow
2015-03-02 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/17] block: Resize bitmaps on bdrv_truncate John Snow
2015-03-03 15:29   ` Max Reitz
2015-03-03 16:02   ` Max Reitz
2015-03-03 21:24     ` John Snow
2015-03-03 21:27       ` Max Reitz
2015-03-03 22:48         ` John Snow
2015-03-04 13:54           ` Max Reitz
2015-03-11 16:18   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-03-11 17:04     ` John Snow
2015-03-02 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/17] iotests: add invalid input incremental backup tests John Snow
2015-03-02 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/17] iotests: add simple incremental backup case John Snow
2015-03-02 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/17] iotests: add incremental backup failure recovery test John Snow
2015-03-03 15:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/17] block: transactionless incremental backup series Max Reitz
2015-03-11 16:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi

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