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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] pflash_cfi01: allow reading/writing it only in secure mode
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 18:10:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5526A469.9060502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5526901D.4000208@redhat.com>

On 04/09/15 16:43, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/04/2015 15:58, Edgar E. Iglesias wrote:
>> Hi Paulo,
>>
>> How would this work with XIP off the romd region?
>> Without s/ns address spaces,  CPUs in NS state will be able to execute
>> and access data while in ROMD state won't they?
> 
> Good point!  In fact, even with S/NS address spaces, the ROMD state is
> global across all CPUs, so if one CPU does a secure write all other CPUs
> would fail to access the ROM in non-secure mode.  Even if I modified
> pflash_mem_read to return ROM contents, it would fail to execute.
> 
> This works for UEFI because the reset vector is the only executable code
> in the flash.  The actual firmware volumes are compressed.

In OVMF, the reset vector and the SEC phase code run from (read-only)
flash. SEC decompresses everything else to RAM. Also, SEC does not
access read-write flash (the varstore) at all.

The above is a specialty of OVMF. In ArmVirtualizationQemu (aka AAVMF),
two further module types run from flash, after SEC: PEI_CORE, and some
PEIMs (ie. the PEI phase comes into the picture). During PEI, read-only
access to the varstore should be supported.

... I'm providing the above as "standalone facts", neither as
confirmation nor as disproof for what you wrote. I don't know enough to
combine these edk2 bits with what you wrote myself, but my hope is that
*you* can maybe combine them, if I point them out. :)

>> I may be missing something...
> 
> You may also be missing (I didn't say it) that this is for x86 not ARM. :->

Right; as long as we're focusing on OVMF "only", then everything after
SEC runs from RAM.

Thanks!
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-09 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-09 12:20 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] pflash_cfi01: allow reading/writing it only in secure mode Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 12:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] pflash_cfi01: change big-endian property to BIT type Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 12:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] pflash_cfi01: change to new-style MMIO accessors Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 12:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] pflash_cfi01: add secure property Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 12:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/3] pflash_cfi01: allow reading/writing it only in secure mode Peter Maydell
2015-04-09 13:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 13:12     ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-09 13:58     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2015-04-09 14:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 16:10         ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2015-04-09 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-09 23:30             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2015-04-10  9:54             ` Peter Maydell

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