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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] fdc: Introduce fdctrl->phase
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 07:55:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555C7645.8000400@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_CivMvcdj0px=_fWUmoXbdrU1HtU8bZpAVNVZ-KyH_7Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 05/20/2015 05:24 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 20 May 2015 at 09:43, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Am 20.05.2015 um 10:06 hat Peter Maydell geschrieben:
>>> That handles migration, which is good. But I still think that
>>> storing the same information in two places in the device
>>> state (phase field and the register fields) is error-prone.
>>
>> That's actually my point. The registers are accessed everywhere in the
>> code, whereas phase transitions are in very few well-defined places
>> (there are exactly four of them, iirc). If they get out of sync, chances
>> are that the bug is in the register value, not in the phase. When we
>> know what phase we're in, we can assert the bits and actually catch such
>> bugs.
>>
>>> If we want to switch to having a phase field we should calculate
>>> the relevant register bits on demand based on the phase, rather
>>> than keeping both copies of the state in sync manually.
>>
>> That doesn't work, unfortunately. Some register bits imply a specific
>> phase (assuming correct code), but you can't derive the exact bits just
>> from the phase.
> 
> Having now dug out a copy of the 82078 spec, I agree that the state
> isn't derivable purely from the register values in the general case.
> The controller clearly has a state machine internally but it doesn't
> surface that in the register state except indirectly.
> 
> -- PMM
> 

So even if /currently/ we can reconstitute it from the register values,
we may eventually be unable to.

post_load will work for now, but I fear the case (in ten years) when
someone else cleans up FDC code but fails to realize that the phase is
not explicitly migrated.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-19 15:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] fdc: Clean up and fix command processing Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] fdc: Rename fdctrl_reset_fifo() to fdctrl_to_command_phase() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:37   ` John Snow
2015-05-19 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] fdc: Rename fdctrl_set_fifo() to fdctrl_to_result_phase() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:38   ` John Snow
2015-05-19 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] fdc: Introduce fdctrl->phase Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:38   ` John Snow
2015-05-19 20:44   ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-19 20:52     ` John Snow
2015-05-19 20:57       ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-20  7:54         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-20  8:06           ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-20  8:43             ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-20  9:24               ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-20 11:55                 ` John Snow [this message]
2015-05-20 12:07                   ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-21  9:42                     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-21  9:47                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-21 10:11                       ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-21 10:31                         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-21 11:09                           ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-21 11:14                             ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-21 11:37                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-19 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] fdc: Use phase in fdctrl_write_data() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:39   ` John Snow
2015-05-19 20:52   ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-19 15:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] fdc: Code cleanup " Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:40   ` John Snow
2015-05-20  8:18     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] fdc: Disentangle phases in fdctrl_read_data() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:40   ` John Snow
2015-05-20  8:25     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-20 11:59       ` John Snow
2015-05-19 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] fdc: Fix MSR.RQM flag Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:40   ` John Snow
2015-05-20  8:14     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-20 11:58       ` John Snow
2015-05-19 15:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] fdc-test: Test state for existing cases more thoroughly Kevin Wolf
2015-05-19 20:41   ` John Snow
2015-05-19 20:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] fdc: Clean up and fix command processing John Snow

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