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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/8] qom: add object_new_with_props / object_new_withpropv constructors
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:32:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <555CA8FB.9050608@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150520151803.GA23989@redhat.com>

Am 20.05.2015 um 17:18 schrieb Daniel P. Berrange:
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:44:19AM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 06:11:05PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2015 17:55, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>> Paolo told me on previous posting that object_property_add_child()
>>>> holds a reference on 'obj' for as long as it is registered in the
>>>> object hierarchy composition. So it sufficient to rely on that long
>>>> term reference, and let the caller dispose of the object by calling
>>>> object_unparent(obj) when finally done.
>>>
>>> For an example of the same pattern:
>>>
>>> DeviceState *qdev_try_create(BusState *bus, const char *type)
>>> {
>>>     DeviceState *dev;
>>>
>>>     if (object_class_by_name(type) == NULL) {
>>>         return NULL;
>>>     }
>>>     dev = DEVICE(object_new(type));
>>>     if (!dev) {
>>>         return NULL;
>>>     }
>>>
>>>     if (!bus) {
>>>         bus = sysbus_get_default();
>>>     }
>>>
>>>     qdev_set_parent_bus(dev, bus);
>>>     object_unref(OBJECT(dev));
>>>     return dev;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Effectively this is idea as GObject's "floating reference".
>>> qdev_set_parent_bus (in qdev_try_create) and object_property_add_child
>>> (in Daniel's patches) "sink" the floating reference by doing
>>> object_unref.  If we had floating references, the object would be
>>> returned to the caller unref'ed anyway.
>>
>> I was agreeing with Andreas at first (because it would make the
>> reference ownership rules simpler and easier to understand), until I
>> noticed that every call of qdev_try_create() and object_resolve_path()
>> in the code would need an additional object_unref() call if we didn't
>> use this pattern.
>>
>> But it bothers me that this exceptional behavior is not documented on
>> neither qdev_try_create() or object_resolve_path().
>>
>>>
>>> Of course, the reference can go away via QMP.  But that will only happen
>>> after the caller would have called object_unref itself.
>>
>> But the caller won't ever call object_unref() because it doesn't own any
>> reference, right? In this case, can we clarify the rules about how long
>> can callers safely expect the object to stay around? Can the object be
>> disposed in another thread? Can it be disposed only when some specific
>> events happen?
> 
> In the inline docs for object_new_with_props I wrote
> 
>   * The returned object will have one stable reference maintained
>   * for as long as it is present in the object hierarchy.
> 
> We could expand it to explicitly say that 'object_unparent' is required
> to remove the object from the hierarchy and free it.

I've already queued this series - let's hold off changes for a bit. :)

Regards,
Andreas

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13 16:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/8] qom: misc fixes & enhancements to support TLS work Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/8] backends: fix typename of 'policy' enum property in hostmem obj Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/8] doc: document user creatable object types in help text Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/8] vl: create (most) objects before creating chardev backends Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 4/8] qom: add helper method for getting user objects root Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 13:30   ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 5/8] qom: add object_new_with_props / object_new_withpropv constructors Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 15:52   ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-19 15:55     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 16:08       ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-19 16:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-20 14:44         ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-20 15:18           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-20 15:32             ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2015-05-20 16:06             ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-20 16:10               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-20 16:11               ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-20 16:22                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-20 16:24                   ` Andreas Färber
2015-05-20 16:44                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 6/8] qom: make enum string tables const-correct Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 7/8] qom: add a object_property_add_enum helper method Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 8/8] qom: don't pass string table to object_get_enum method Daniel P. Berrange

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