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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, jcody@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	armbru@redhat.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO"
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:50:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55659372.9060804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150527090745.GA4669@noname.str.redhat.com>



On 27/05/2015 11:07, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> This is the first part of what's troubling me with this series, as it
> makes me doubtful if op blockers are the right tool to implement what
> the commit message says (block device I/O). This is "are we doing the
> thing right?"
> 
> The second part should actually come first, though: "Are we doing the
> right thing?" I'm also doubtful whether blocking device I/O is even what
> we should do.
> 
> Why is device I/O special compared to block job I/O or NBD server I/O?

Because block job I/O doesn't modify the source disk.  For the target
disk, block jobs should definitely treat themselves as device I/O and
register notifiers that pause themselves on bdrv_drain.

> If the answer is "because block jobs are already paused while draining"
> (and probably nobody thought much about the NBD server), then chances
> are that it's not the right thing.  In fact, using two different
> mechanisms for pausing block jobs and pausing device I/O seems
> inconsistent and wrong.
> 
> I suspect that the real solution needs to be in the block layer, though
> I'm not quite sure yet what it would be like. Perhaps a function pair
> like blk_stop/resume_io() that is used by bdrv_drain() callers and works
> on the BlockBackend level.

This is suspiciously similar to the first idea that I and Stefan had,
which was a blk_pause/blk_resume API, implemented through a notifier list.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-27  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21  6:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/13] Fix transactional snapshot with dataplane and NBD export Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO" Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  7:06   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21  7:32     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  4:54       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:51         ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:15           ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  8:00   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21 12:44     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  6:18       ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-26 14:22   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-26 14:24     ` Max Reitz
2015-05-27  9:07       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27  9:50         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-05-27 10:10           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27 10:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  2:49               ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28  8:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 10:46                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 10:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:11                       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:19                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:05                           ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-29 11:11                             ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-05-30 13:21                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  9:40                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 10:55                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:24                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 11:41                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:44                         ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:04                             ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/13] block: Add op blocker notifier list Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/13] block-backend: Add blk_op_blocker_add_notifier Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/13] virtio-blk: Move complete_request to 'ops' structure Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/13] virtio-blk: Don't handle output when there is "device IO" op blocker Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/13] virtio-scsi-dataplane: Add "device IO" op blocker listener Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/13] nbd-server: Clear "can_read" when "device io" blocker is set Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:54   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/13] blockdev: Block device IO during internal snapshot transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:56   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/13] blockdev: Block device IO during external " Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:58   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/13] blockdev: Block device IO during drive-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:59   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/13] blockdev: Block device IO during blockdev-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:05   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/13] block: Block "device IO" during bdrv_drain and bdrv_drain_all Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:11   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:48     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-26 14:21       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/13] block/mirror: Block "device IO" during mirror exit Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:21   ` Max Reitz

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