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From: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: jcody@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/34] block: Allow references for backing files
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 17:58:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5566E6AB.60800@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150528094848.GC3385@noname.redhat.com>

On 05/28/2015 05:48 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 28.05.2015 um 02:59 hat Wen Congyang geschrieben:
>> On 05/27/2015 08:31 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 21.05.2015 um 07:47 hat Wen Congyang geschrieben:
>>>> On 05/09/2015 01:21 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>>> For bs->file, using references to existing BDSes has been possible for a
>>>>> while already. This patch enables the same for bs->backing_hd.
>>>>
>>>> 1. We reference to an existing BDSes, and some disk uses this blk. Do
>>>> we allow this?
>>>
>>> Currently yes. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
>>>
>>> As long as your guest device is read-only, it should just work. It would
>>> be a very bad idea, though, to write to a backing file.
>>>
>>> Op blockers should eventually prevent this from happening (Jeff, you may
>>> want to take a note ;-))
>>>
>>>> 2. bs->backing_hd->blk can be not NULL now? If we do an active commit
>>>> to this backing file(use mirror job), we will call bdrv_swap() in
>>>> mirror_exit(), and the function bdrv_swap() doesn't allow that
>>>> new_bs->blk(here is bs->backing_hd) is not NULL.
>>>
>>> You're right.
>>>
>>> I can remove this patch from the series for now, but of course that
>>> doesn't solve the problem. I'm not sure what to do about it. Making
>>> bdrv_swap() work with BDSes that have BB attached is probably another
>>> item in the list of "dynamic reconfiguration" problems.
>>
>> What does "dynamic reconfiguration" mean? Allow to change drive's option
>> when guest is running?
> 
> Sorry, I should have been more specific for those of you who haven't
> been part of previous discussions.
> 
> In this context, I'm talking about dynamic reconfiguration of the
> BlockDriverState graph, i.e. any operation that changes the relationship
> between different BDSes (essentially add/remove/change pointers to other
> BDSes).
> 
> An example for that is changing the backing file of an opened image
> after having merged external snapshots with block-commit, or inserting a
> new active layer for taking a live snapshot.

Thanks for your explanation. I understand it now.

Wen Congyang

> 
> Kevin
> .
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-08 17:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/34] block: Cache mode for children, reopen overhaul and more Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/34] qdict: Add qdict_array_entries() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 20:06   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-08 21:22     ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:40     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 15:28       ` Eric Blake
2015-05-20 14:19     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Alberto Garcia
2015-05-11 13:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/34] qdict: Add qdict_{set,copy}_default() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 21:30   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/34] qdict: Add qdict_{set, copy}_default() Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:06     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 14:16   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/34] quorum: Use bdrv_open_image() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 21:33   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:27   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 19:07   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Jeff Cody
2015-05-20 14:46   ` Alberto Garcia
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/34] vmdk: " Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 22:00   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:35   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 19:12   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Jeff Cody
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/34] block: Use macro for cache option names Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 22:54   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:40   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-11 14:51     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 14:59       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-11 15:00   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 19:14   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Jeff Cody
2015-05-20 14:49   ` Alberto Garcia
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/34] block: Use QemuOpts in bdrv_open_common() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 22:57   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 14:57   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/34] block: Move flag inheritance to bdrv_open_inherited() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 23:20   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 15:20   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 13:32     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 11:10   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/34] block: Add list of children to BlockDriverState Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 23:34   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 15:45   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 14:23     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-10 12:09     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-10 13:48       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-27 11:30   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/34] block: Add BlockDriverState.inherits_from Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 23:39   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-11 15:50   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/34] block: Fix reopen flag inheritance Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 16:04   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 14:32   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/34] block: Allow references for backing files Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 16:19   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 14:46   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-21  5:47   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-27 12:31     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27 13:30       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27 13:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  0:59       ` [Qemu-devel] " Wen Congyang
2015-05-28  9:48         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28  9:58           ` Wen Congyang [this message]
2015-06-01  2:01       ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/34] block: Allow specifying driver-specific options to reopen Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 16:35   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 14:59   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/34] qemu-io: Add command 'reopen' Kevin Wolf
2015-05-11 16:50   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-12 15:05   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13  8:37     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/34] qcow2: Factor out qcow2_update_options() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 20:04   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13  9:11     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 17:04       ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 11:21   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-13 11:28   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/34] qcow2: Move qcow2_update_options() call up Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 20:15   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 11:25   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/34] qcow2: Move rest of option handling to qcow2_update_options() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 20:47   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 11:38   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/34] qcow2: Leave s unchanged on qcow2_update_options() failure Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 20:57   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 11:47   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/34] qcow2: Fix memory leak in qcow2_update_options() error path Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 21:26   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 11:52   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-13 12:02     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 12:04       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/34] qcow2: Make qcow2_update_options() suitable for transactions Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 21:40   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13  9:21     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 12:06   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/34] qcow2: Support updating driver-specific options in reopen Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 21:47   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13  9:26     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/34] block: Consider all block layer options in append_open_options Kevin Wolf
2015-05-12 21:59   ` Eric Blake
2015-05-13 12:26   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/34] block: Exclude nested options only for children in append_open_options() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 12:49   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-13 12:50     ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/34] block: Pass driver-specific options to .bdrv_refresh_filename() Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 12:57   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/34] block: Keep "driver" in bs->options Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 13:22   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/34] block: Allow specifying child options in reopen Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 13:41   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/34] block: reopen: Document option precedence and refactor accordingly Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 14:47   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/34] block: Add infrastructure for option inheritance Kevin Wolf
2015-05-13 15:10   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-13 15:28     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/34] block: Introduce bs->explicit_options Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 17:47   ` Max Reitz
2015-10-29 11:38     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/34] qemu-iotests: Remove cache mode test without medium Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 17:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/34] block: reopen: Extract QemuOpts for generic block layer options Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 18:07   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/34] block: Move cache options into options QDict Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 18:43   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-15 19:44     ` Eric Blake
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/34] qemu-iotests: Try setting cache mode for children Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 18:52   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/34] qemu-iotests: Test cache mode option inheritance Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 19:16   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-18 14:39     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-18 15:32       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-08 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/34] qemu-iotests: Test reopen with node-name/driver options Kevin Wolf
2015-05-15 19:19   ` Max Reitz

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