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From: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 23/24] apci: fix PXB behaviour if used with unsupported BIOS
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:05:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556C5881.8070605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150601142731-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On 06/01/2015 03:27 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:21:19PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
>> On 06/01/2015 03:17 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:40:19PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>>> On Mo, 2015-06-01 at 12:44 +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
>>>>> On 05/31/2015 09:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 06:34:01PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
>>>>>>> PXB does not work with unsupported bioses, but should
>>>>>>> not interfere with normal OS operation.
>>>>>>> We don't ship them anymore, but it's reasonable
>>>>>>> to keep the work-around until we update the bios in qemu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already did, did we not?
>>>>> Yes, we did, but Gerd preferred to keep this patch around.
>>>>> Adding him to thread.
>>>>
>>>> seabios bundled with qemu isn't the only possible firmware.
>>>>
>>>> We have ovmf, coreboot, qboot.
>>>
>>> ovmf is especially interesting. Marcel, did you look at what
>>> happens with pxb and ovmf?
>> No, I talked to Laszlo about it, he said ovmf is not there yet.
>> OVMF will not query the extra buses, so the devices on the extra bus will not be visible.
>> Adding him to the thread.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcel
>
> But does OVMF need this specific patch?
I don't think so because more than likely it doesn't scan for the extra buses,
so it will not try to configure these devices.
Laszlo, am I right?

Thanks,
Marcel

>
>>>
>>>> You might boot with old seabios for
>>>> whatever reasons (say bisecting down something).
>>>
>>> But then you won't have pxb, will you?
>>>
>>>> IMO qemu should deal
>>>> with pxe not being initialized by the firmware in a sensible way, for
>>>> robustness reasons.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>    Gerd
>>>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-01 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-25 15:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 00/24] hw/pc: implement multiple primary busses for pc machines Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 01/24] acpi: add aml_or() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 02/24] acpi: add aml_add() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-26  6:09   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 03/24] acpi: add aml_lless() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 04/24] acpi: add aml_index() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-26  6:12   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 05/24] acpi: add aml_shiftleft() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-26  6:15   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 06/24] acpi: add aml_shiftright() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-26  6:16   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 07/24] acpi: add aml_increment() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 08/24] acpi: add aml_while() term Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 09/24] hw/pci: made pci_bus_is_root a PCIBusClass method Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 10/24] hw/pci: made pci_bus_num " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 11/24] hw/i386: query only for q35/pc when looking for pci host bridge Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 12/24] hw/pci: extend PCI config access to support devices behind PXB Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 13/24] hw/acpi: add support for i440fx 'snooping' root busses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 14/24] hw/apci: add _PRT method for extra PCI " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 15/24] hw/acpi: add _CRS method for extra " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 16/24] hw/acpi: remove from root bus 0 the crs resources used by other buses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 17/24] hw/pci: removed 'rootbus nr is 0' assumption from qmp_pci_query Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 18/24] hw/pci: introduce PCI Expander Bridge (PXB) Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 19/24] hw/pci: inform bios if the system has extra pci root buses Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 20/24] hw/pxb: add map_irq func Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 21/24] hw/pci: add support for NUMA nodes Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 22/24] hw/pxb: add numa_node parameter Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-25 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 23/24] apci: fix PXB behaviour if used with unsupported BIOS Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-05-31 18:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  9:44     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-06-01 11:40       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-06-01 12:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 12:21           ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-06-01 12:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 13:05               ` Marcel Apfelbaum [this message]
2015-06-01 13:28                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-01 13:48                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-06-01 15:37                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-02 11:37                       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-06-02 15:24                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-02 15:51                           ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-06-01 12:24           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-06-01 12:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 12:57               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-06-01 13:26                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-25 15:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 24/24] docs: Add PXB documentation Marcel Apfelbaum

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