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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: matt.fleming@intel.com, "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, gsomlo@gmail.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 4/4] fw_cfg: insert fw_cfg file blobs via qemu cmdline
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:21:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556C5C55.30808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150601143447-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On 06/01/15 14:38, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:26:53PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 06/01/15 12:48, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 12:43:35PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/06/2015 12:23, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>> Still, reserving part of the namespace for QEMU internal use
>>>>> is *not* policy, it's just good engineering.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about we forbid adding files under "etc/" ?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be enough to avoid conflicts.
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand.  What we're doing is free-beer.  We can always say
>>>> no.  What's your worry?
>>>
>>> Someone writes a tool using a specific path.
>>> We then add same path upstream, script breaks.
>>>
>>>> One usecase of this feature is to avoid recompiling QEMU while playing
>>>> with firmware.  If you cannot mimic QEMU's behavior (which is to add
>>>> "etc/" files), the feature is pointless, or at least I totally cannot
>>>> understand its purpose and I'm against merging it.
>>>>
>>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> Confused.  Why does it produce the warning then?
>>>
>>> If it's just for playing games, add a configure
>>> switch to enable it, and disable by default.
>>> Don't set traps for users.
>>
>> The site specific feature can be long-term for a given site. It might
>> live across several QEMU upgrades. New version of QEMU introdces a new
>> fw_cfg file, might conflict with user's file from earlier. Unless the
>> user places it under opt/. For that reason we emit a warning, but do not
>> forcefully prevent the user from shooting his foot off.
>>
>> Laszlo
> 
> I'm sorry - I don't understand. It's easy to do the right thing.  Just
> add the opt prefix. Why insist on user doing the right thing, and punish
> violations with failing at random?

I'm not insisting, just trying to explain / repeat the thought process
(from more than one month ago :)) that lead up to Gabriel's v4.

Thanks
Laszlo

> If it's useful for developers somehow, add a config flag for that.
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-01 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-29 15:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 0/4] fw-cfg: cleanup and user-provided command line blobs Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-04-29 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 1/4] fw_cfg: remove support for guest-side data writes Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-04-29 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 2/4] fw_cfg: prevent selector key conflict Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-04-29 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 3/4] fw_cfg: prohibit insertion of duplicate fw_cfg file names Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-04-29 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 4/4] fw_cfg: insert fw_cfg file blobs via qemu cmdline Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-05-31 18:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  7:06     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-01  7:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01  9:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 10:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 10:35             ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-01 10:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 11:19                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-01 10:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 10:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 10:50                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 11:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 11:18                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 11:05                   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-06-01 11:20                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-06-01 11:21                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 11:26                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-06-01 12:38                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 12:39                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-01 12:41                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-01 12:43                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-02  7:37                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-06-02  8:28                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-02  9:43                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-06-01 13:21                     ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2015-06-01 11:24               ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-18 13:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 0/4] fw-cfg: cleanup and user-provided command line blobs Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-05-29 12:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann

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