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From: Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Julian Ganz <neither@nut.email>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] tcg-plugins: add hooks for interrupts, exceptions and traps
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 13:45:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5574c9d6-c4aa-43b4-bfdc-9a4f5eced066@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878quhnvhm.fsf@draig.linaro.org>



On 10/21/24 11:47, Alex Bennée wrote:
> Pierrick Bouvier <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org> writes:
> 
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> On 10/19/24 09:39, Julian Ganz wrote:
>>> Some analysis greatly benefits, or depends on, information about
>>> interrupts. For example, we may need to handle the execution of a new
>>> translation block differently if it is not the result of normal program
>>> flow but of an interrupt.
>>> Even with the existing interfaces, it is more or less possible to
>>> discern these situations, e.g. as done by the cflow plugin. However,
>>> this process poses a considerable overhead to the core analysis one may
>>> intend to perform.
>>>
>>
>> I agree it would be useful. Beyond the scope of this series, it would
>> be nice if we could add a control flow related API instead of asking
>> to plugins to do it themselves.
> 
> I think there is a balance to be had here. We don't want to
> inadvertently expose QEMU internals to the plugin API. With this series
> at least we rely on stuff the front-end knows which can at least be
> tweaked relatively easily.
> 

You're right. Maybe a good way to find the balance is to identify the 
real use cases behind this need.

>> If we would provide something like this, is there still a value to add
>> an API to detect interrupt/exceptions/traps events?
>>
>> Note: It's not a critic against what you sent, just an open question
>> on *why* it's useful to access this QEMU implementation related
>> information vs something more generic.
> <snip>
> 
> It would be good to have the opinion of the front-end maintainers if
> this is too burdensome or easy enough to manage.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-21 12:24 [PATCH] tcg-plugins: add a hook for interrupts, exceptions and traps Julian Ganz
2023-10-23 13:08 ` Alex Bennée
2023-10-23 18:45   ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] tcg-plugins: add hooks " Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] plugins: add API for registering trap related callbacks Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] plugins: add hooks for new " Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] contrib/plugins: add plugin showcasing new trap related API Julian Ganz
2024-10-21 18:06     ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-21 18:07     ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-21 20:22       ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] target/arm: call plugin trap callbacks Julian Ganz
2024-10-21 12:58     ` Peter Maydell
2024-10-21 16:25       ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] target/avr: " Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 17:29     ` Michael Rolnik
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] target/riscv: " Julian Ganz
2024-10-19 16:39   ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] target/sparc: " Julian Ganz
2024-10-20 19:37   ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] tcg-plugins: add hooks for interrupts, exceptions and traps Alex Bennée
2024-10-21 18:00   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-21 18:47     ` Alex Bennée
2024-10-21 20:45       ` Pierrick Bouvier [this message]
2024-10-21 21:02     ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-21 21:59       ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-22  8:21         ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-22  8:58           ` Alex Bennée
2024-10-22 20:12             ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-22 21:15           ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-23 12:56             ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-23 13:57               ` Alex Bennée
2024-10-23 15:21                 ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-23 15:16               ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-23 16:12                 ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-23 16:39                   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-10-23 17:12                     ` Julian Ganz
2024-10-23 17:53                       ` Pierrick Bouvier

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