From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2MHi-0006QJ-AJ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:21:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2MHg-0005kM-PM for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:21:53 -0400 Message-ID: <5577048E.6050304@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 09:21:50 -0600 From: Eric Blake MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1426791197-7793-1-git-send-email-mreitz@redhat.com> <20150609085942.GA4329@noname.str.redhat.com> <20150609101958.GA27900@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> <5576D2D4.9050106@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XWpuCGxWxVC4huLBr7595Oj6pp4XfDrpj" Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open() List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Stefan Hajnoczi Cc: Kevin Wolf , Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel , qemu block , Max Reitz This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --XWpuCGxWxVC4huLBr7595Oj6pp4XfDrpj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/09/2015 08:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > I guess my @redhat.com email was received directly from Max because I > was in CC list. It didn't pass through Mailman. I saw the original, > unmodified list of CCs with Kevin included. >=20 > The @gmail.com email was received from the mailing list. Mailman did > what you described. And that's what makes it so annoying. Original recipients have the full list, but later additions to the thread don't know who the original recipients were, only that including the list in reply will also reach the original recipients (albeit maybe not filtered into the right folder)= =2E I have no idea if mailman has some tweakable setting that can change this bad out-of-the-box default of munging cc's that so many lists use, but even if it does, it requires a list admin to tweak the setting, for each affected list. >=20 > This means I cannot send "Please CC maintainer" emails anymore because > I cannot be sure whether the maintainer was CCed! Well, unless you know the maintainer is one of the people who does NOT use the mailman setting of "don't send me duplicate mails" (sadly, we have deduced that Kevin does use it, making it harder to tell if he is aware of a thread). --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --XWpuCGxWxVC4huLBr7595Oj6pp4XfDrpj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVdwSOAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqlHwH/jsBHM9HNf1eaIR+LdIyHHLJ J81vD3WriJBKT35YrBWC05dpsLBanSPgQ4t3hjpsH37yT78oy6gr4m9Qc7SfWgTs vsyW1rWYcbr798yn+5U3aC4hFwxQ+BTHVSqmhEolhKrTA+EanTwAkoVApAnbRZql 4ddKGDgVpgh8jMxUb5sli/IyxZ4H3ldv6PxL50xNvkpUEYNNEeHw6ZS5wCw28b0h stlKXM7v1nVcBDztPxVR5zg9PDr7isgIYbHQXjVvHcS+eqUbIaMb1QILoJPe84M/ jOXgzNq3QEboaAGdgr2POlwHs6gUGivtPGOkpp/L+HTAXk1DOaDkz7LNXzbLPN8= =ICmX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XWpuCGxWxVC4huLBr7595Oj6pp4XfDrpj--