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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	famz@redhat.com, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
	vsementsov@parallels.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] block/backup: support block job transactions
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:52:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5592BB56.4020306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150630152755.GF31899@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>



On 06/30/2015 11:27 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:39:08PM -0400, John Snow wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/25/2015 08:12 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> Join the transaction when the backup block job is in incremental backup
>>> mode.
>>>
>>> This ensures that the sync bitmap is not thrown away if another block
>>> job in the transaction is cancelled or fails.  This is critical so
>>> incremental backup with multiple disks can be retried in case of
>>> cancellation/failure.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>  block/backup.c |  7 +++++-
>>>  blockdev.c     | 73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
>>>  2 files changed, 59 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
>>> index ddf8424..fa86b0e 100644
>>> --- a/block/backup.c
>>> +++ b/block/backup.c
>>> @@ -429,6 +429,8 @@ static void coroutine_fn backup_run(void *opaque)
>>>      qemu_co_rwlock_wrlock(&job->flush_rwlock);
>>>      qemu_co_rwlock_unlock(&job->flush_rwlock);
>>>  
>>> +    block_job_txn_prepare_to_complete(job->common.txn, &job->common, ret);
>>> +
>>>      if (job->sync_bitmap) {
>>>          BdrvDirtyBitmap *bm;
>>>          if (ret < 0 || block_job_is_cancelled(&job->common)) {
>>> @@ -457,7 +459,7 @@ void backup_start(BlockDriverState *bs, BlockDriverState *target,
>>>                    BlockdevOnError on_source_error,
>>>                    BlockdevOnError on_target_error,
>>>                    BlockCompletionFunc *cb, void *opaque,
>>> -                  Error **errp)
>>> +                  BlockJobTxn *txn, Error **errp)
>>>  {
>>>      int64_t len;
>>>  
>>> @@ -537,6 +539,9 @@ void backup_start(BlockDriverState *bs, BlockDriverState *target,
>>>      job->sync_mode = sync_mode;
>>>      job->sync_bitmap = sync_mode == MIRROR_SYNC_MODE_DIRTY_BITMAP ?
>>>                         sync_bitmap : NULL;
>>> +    if (job->sync_bitmap) {
>>> +        block_job_txn_add_job(txn, &job->common);
>>> +    }
>>
>> Hmm, is this what we want? This will add backup jobs to a transaction
>> only if they have a bitmap attached to the job.
>>
>> However, if we're doing a mixture of full and incremental backups, we
>> may still want to roll back the incremental backups if the full backups
>> failed as part of the transaction.
>>
>> The (admittedly more complicated) design I submitted will always add a
>> job to the transactional group, whether it has a bitmap or not. The
>> membership test was only if it was launched by the backup transaction
>> action. The bitmap is only checked for purposes of refcounting and
>> cleanup mechanics.
>>
>> Maybe that wasn't what we wanted either, but this is a difference in how
>> our series will behave.
> 
> The 'backup' operation was added to the QMP 'transaction' command in
> QEMU 1.6.  If we add non-incremental backup commands to the transaction
> then behavior changes.
> 

Ugh, good point...

> Perhaps DriveBackup and BlockdevBackup QAPI structures should take an
> optional 'transaction' bool argument.  That way the caller decides which
> behavior to use.
> 

The way my version operated only changed the cleanup behavior -- it
didn't attempt to cancel other jobs if they failed or not. It naively
let them finish, then performed cleanup based on the overall completion
status.

That let the old behavior continue working like it did, but changed how
incrementals worked upon completion.

(1) Perhaps we can change the forced cancellation aspect and just allow
jobs to finish naturally even in the event of failure. It's wasteful,
but it does allow us to maintain the existing behavior while getting the
behavior we want for incremental transactions.

(2) Or, yes, add some sort of "all or nothing" flag to transactions(?*)
that users can toggle on/off. I had wondered in the past if it wouldn't
be advantageous for libvirt to be able to choose this behavior, if
managing state of partial completions was desirable in some cases to
avoid re-running operations unnecessarily.

*As a thought, perhaps cancel-all-on-error as a flag can be a property
of the QMP transaction command itself. When set, actions that launch
jobs can add the job to the TXN. An error can be raised if the flag is
used in conjunction with an action that doesn't currently/won't ever
support the do-or-die flag.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-30 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-25 12:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] block: incremental backup transactions using BlockJobTxn Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qapi: Add transaction support to block-dirty-bitmap operations Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] iotests: add transactional incremental backup test Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] block: rename BlkTransactionState and BdrvActionOps Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] block: keep bitmap if incremental backup job is cancelled Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-26  6:00   ` Fam Zheng
2015-06-29 22:36   ` John Snow
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] block: add block job transactions Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-26  6:41   ` Fam Zheng
2015-06-29 22:38   ` John Snow
2015-06-30 16:20     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] blockdev: make BlockJobTxn available to qmp 'transaction' Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-26  6:42   ` Fam Zheng
2015-06-29 22:38   ` John Snow
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] block/backup: support block job transactions Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-26  6:44   ` Fam Zheng
2015-06-29 22:39   ` John Snow
2015-06-30 15:27     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-30 15:52       ` John Snow [this message]
2015-07-01  8:45         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] iotests: 124 - transactional failure test Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] qmp-commands.hx: Update the supported 'transaction' operations Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-25 12:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] tests: add BlockJobTxn unit test Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-26  6:58   ` Fam Zheng
2015-06-29 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] block: incremental backup transactions using BlockJobTxn Stefan Hajnoczi

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