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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-pci: implement cfg capability
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 14:04:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <559A6EBC.4010004@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-3KVV5_FTgLvijYXHTb1cZ2QR1hd8=WqLyVV_a9mEO_g@mail.gmail.com>



On 06/07/2015 13:50, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 6 July 2015 at 11:31, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:04:24AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On 6 July 2015 at 11:03, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 10:11:18AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>>> But address_space_rw() is just the "memcpy bytes to the
>>>>> target's memory" operation -- if you have a pile of bytes
>>>>> then there are no endianness concerns. If you don't have
>>>>> a pile of bytes then you need to know the structure of
>>>>> the data you're DMAing around, and you should probably
>>>>> have a loop doing things with the specify-the-width functions.
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. But what if DMA happens to target another device
>>>> and not memory? Device needs some endian-ness so it needs
>>>> to be converted to that.
>>>
>>> Yes, and address_space_rw() already deals with conversion to
>>> that device's specified endianness.
> 
>> Yes, but incorrectly if target endian != host endian.
>> For example, LE target and LE device on BE host.
> 
> Having walked through the code, got confused, talked to
> bonzini on IRC about it and got unconfused again,

Ah, *that discussion*.  So it was yet another XY question, :) but for
the better because it also helped me abstract Michael's question.

Peter's analysis below summarizes the implementation very well.

 I believe
> we do get this correct.
> 
>  * address_space_rw() takes a pointer to a pile of bytes
>  * if the destination is RAM, we just memcpy them (because
>    guest RAM is also a pile of bytes)
>  * if the destination is a device, then we read a value
>    out of the pile of bytes at whatever width the target
>    device can handle. The functions we use for this are
>    ldl_q/ldl_p/etc, which do "load target endianness"
>    (ie "interpret this set of 4 bytes as if it were an
>    integer in the target-endianness") because the API of
>    memory_region_dispatch_write() is that it takes a uint64_t
>    data whose contents are the value to write in target
>    endianness order. (This is regrettably undocumented.)

^^ And this is the part where "the endianness of the CPU->device
bus/link" enters the picture.  But it doesn't matter if the source is
instead another device.  What matters is that address_space_rw() manages
conversion from a pile of bytes, and the device doing DMA provides
that---a pile of bytes.

In the patch at the beginning of this thread, problems arose because
what you passed to address_space_write wasn't just a "pile of bytes"
coming from a network packet or a disk sector.  Instead, it was the
outcome of a previous conversion from "pile of bytes" to "bytes
representing an integer in little-endian format".  This conversion could
have possibly included a byteswap.

Once you have established that the bytes represent an integer the right
way to access them is to use ld*_p/st*_p and
address_space_ld*/address_space_st*.  This ensures that you do an even
number of further byteswaps; for *_le_p and address_space_*_le, there
will be 0 further byteswaps on little-endian hosts and 2 on big-endian
hosts.

Paolo

>  * memory_region_dispatch_write() then calls adjust_endianness(),
>    converting a target-endian value to the endianness the
>    device says it requires
>  * we then call the device's read/write functions, whose API
>    is that they get a value in the endianness they asked for.
> 
>> IO callbacks always get a native endian format so they expect to get
>> byte 0 of the buffer in MSB on this host.
> 
> IO callbacks get the format they asked for (which might
> be BE, LE or target endianness). They will get byte 0 of
> the buffer in the MSB if they said they were BE devices
> (or if they said they were target-endian on a BE target).

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-06 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-02 13:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-pci: implement cfg capability Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 18:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-02 19:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 19:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-04 21:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06  7:46         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-06  8:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06  8:46             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-06  9:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06  9:11                 ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-06 10:03                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06 10:04                     ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-06 10:31                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06 11:50                         ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-06 12:04                           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-07-06 12:15                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06 12:12                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-06 12:23                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-03  9:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann

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