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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	agraf@suse.de, Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	jfrei@linux.vnet.ibm.com, gesaint@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.4 1/2] core: reset handler for bus-less devices
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:49:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A3DE04.5040209@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150713173858.1930cd71.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>

Am 13.07.2015 um 17:38 schrieb Cornelia Huck:
> Really, I think we're moving in circles here. First, the device should
> not live on the sysbus as it does not fit the perceived sysbus
> semantics. As there is no natural bus for it to live on, it becomes a
> pure device. Which is not reset, because somehow a generic callback is
> not called generically.
> 
> I think we're really doing ourselves a disservice by this confused
> calling convention. How likely is it that someone introducing a pure
> device is immediately aware that some callbacks happen automatically
> while others don't? I wouldn't be surprised if there were some
> headscratchers that are solved by adding the reset call.

Well, I'd say the real bug is that this device is on the /machine in the
first place, without a parent that propagates reset. Either it becomes
self-responsible like this patch or my manual alternative are
suggesting, or it is managed by some other object - either by /machine
or indicating that this device is misplaced as a child of /machine.

Fixing qdev reset to automatically propagate to children wouldn't help
here, as /machine is not a device.

I would've suggested putting that on the KVM call agenda, but the call
is not tomorrow but next week.

Regards,
Andreas

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-09 16:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.4 0/2] reset for bus-less devices Cornelia Huck
2015-07-09 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.4 1/2] core: reset handler " Cornelia Huck
2015-07-09 16:59   ` Andreas Färber
2015-07-09 18:53     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2015-07-13 14:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-13 12:22   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-13 14:11     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 14:20       ` Andreas Färber
2015-07-13 14:30         ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-07-13 15:05           ` Andreas Färber
2015-07-13 15:38             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 15:49               ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2015-07-13 15:56               ` Peter Maydell
2015-07-13 14:37         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 16:06           ` Andreas Färber
2015-07-14  7:41             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-09 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.4 2/2] watchdog/diag288: handle subsystem resets correctly Cornelia Huck

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