From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFzWH-0002e8-82 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:53:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFzWG-00035v-19 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:53:17 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:51526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFzWF-00035n-RY for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 02:53:15 -0400 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFF0EB5E70 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2015 06:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55A8A654.5070003@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 08:53:08 +0200 From: Thomas Huth MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1432322539-23719-1-git-send-email-thuth@redhat.com> <20150526125235.GJ13262@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> <87egm34dk0.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> In-Reply-To: <87egm34dk0.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fp4r3UoofAa7HUEhxW9K1BDE44hDjJpOw" Subject: [Qemu-devel] net: Next steps to deprecate -net (was: [RFC PATCH] Enable vlans and dump for -netdev, too) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Markus Armbruster , Stefan Hajnoczi Cc: Jason Wang , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Fp4r3UoofAa7HUEhxW9K1BDE44hDjJpOw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/26/2015 04:29 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Stefan Hajnoczi writes: [...] >> We thought the QEMU "vlan" concept would be dropped completely in the >> future, so it was never added to -netdev. No patches to do that have >> been posted over the years, so I think it was more of a conceptual goa= l >> than a concrete requirement. >=20 > Well, patches to do that first need to replace the VLAN-only dump > feature. >=20 > To fully deprecate -net, we also have to replace -net nic for > configuring onboard NICs. >=20 > Prior discussion: > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-02/msg03743.html >=20 > We haven't really tried either. Ok, assuming that my "Network traffic dumping for -netdev devices" patch series is going to solve the dumping-for-netdev problem, how do we tackle the remaining problems that we have to solve before we can deprecate -net? Does anybody have a survey of the (onboard) NICs that can only be configured with -net but not with -device? Could they nowadays be changed to work with -device, too, or are there still major obstacles to solve first? Thomas --Fp4r3UoofAa7HUEhxW9K1BDE44hDjJpOw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVqKZUAAoJEC7Z13T+cC21Du8P/1/roRfhyY/adoytZMw0iv4t LALGuAAGaEDgPcwGDWQ9TsrP/ft4c07qfXcQLNNEvlffbuzT3rHBYkIYKqjyvXD0 cKcStTsaAkbApLlASC5nFVbk0fHFiZZ9uT5UFONIS6oMqkjhj6sNZwM31qJHcA3e G820BLmHAi2aAcDTgUnWw4h3IuBSMlFTiEHePk4ctuSwizDd/g01rNftnprbZCZ3 QAY/QdWFLlGObdz3zKgIjNIMveeta6QznX6Xj5SjgXsiLMwu9vw1YO0yTY9xfKC/ oXLy/lfSSbxMprO/4EiDvIVmW6fsnvHjtDs9WHE51gbq7r7QzMM5V4Z5S+xK/+Qf pLYzyLk5gnsMueKBvVjm6ZpXc4glzrGtshSdhXzlmmibI4p6T4YIZyCAa37qYIUX O/uC+7tcHZBQsx6J+OyZUtdLE3hJHzJDO6mu0qNeS9Sib3rECMGJPO2giaMjPgJE RPkcHqWE6oI2NWox2nUuEPi06eOmHXbB8vICr6ZUaVXNKS3qGKI283nck3Ozo7eO WiRKTaeyIEWyoI9OTTCGWrMd/SWXoB+7/13zVNDTcjG2lHMZbC7JoDRWY2fdvL4e 8YYZys2vYbLWFfGnKysbcs/Y3eYgd03ZYXQv7TamH0g7uK0ku+GSzUfvRhbGrNOU uROlD8z+FxXTQK8tP8b1 =FET4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fp4r3UoofAa7HUEhxW9K1BDE44hDjJpOw--