Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL for-2.4 0/7] update ipxe roms, fix efi support

[Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>]

On 07/22/15 11:05, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:58:59AM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> On 07/21/15 18:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2015 16:25, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> or work
>>> with others to add upstream maintainers.
>>
>> When we can't get the maintainer's attention for our patches, and when
>> the maintainer tends to rewrite even those patches he more or less
>> likes, how do you propose we convince him to give *push access* to
>> random people?
>>
>>> I see that Hannes Reinecke
>>> also has patches on ipxe-devel that look ignored, so Gred and Laszlo
>>> are not the only ones struggling to get patches upstream into ipxe.
>>
>> I've said it several times (on other lists too), and I'll say it again:
>> ipxe is not an "open process" community project at this point. The last
>> half year, as Paolo indicated, and as I proved above, has been ample
>> experience.
> 
> I understand the frustration with upstream.  Thanks for posting a
> summary of stranded patch series, it helped explain that.
> 
> The reason I'm suggesting reaching out to Michael Brown is that the
> downstream repo will only be an "open process" for us virtualization
> developers.  It won't have a user community, support, or help improve
> the situation for non-virtualization developers - all things which
> matter for a healthy long-term open source project.

All the things upstream ipxe has been lacking for at least half a year
now, without much indication that it could improve.

> It may be simplest if Gerd maintains a QEMU downstream repository.  I'm
> not against that.  But let's notify Michael Brown so he has a chance to
> consider the problem.

If you can reach out to Michael Brown, that would be highly appreciated.
Personally I lost all hope.

Thanks
Laszlo