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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>
Cc: zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"jan.kiszka@siemens.com" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"peter.huangpeng" <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [POC] colo-proxy in qemu
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:15:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B9DD38.2030706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150730080339.GA2250@work-vm>



On 07/30/2015 04:03 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Dong, Eddie (eddie.dong@intel.com) wrote:
>>>> A question here, the packet comparing may be very tricky. For example,
>>>> some protocol use random data to generate unpredictable id or
>>>> something else. One example is ipv6_select_ident() in Linux. So COLO
>>>> needs a mechanism to make sure PVM and SVM can generate same random
>>> data?
>>> Good question, the random data connection is a big problem for COLO. At
>>> present, it will trigger checkpoint processing because of the different random
>>> data.
>>> I don't think any mechanisms can assure two different machines generate the
>>> same random data. If you have any ideas, pls tell us :)
>>>
>>> Frequent checkpoint can handle this scenario, but maybe will cause the
>>> performance poor. :(
>>>
>> The assumption is that, after VM checkpoint, SVM and PVM have identical internal state, so the pattern used to generate random data has high possibility to generate identical data at short time, at least...
> They do diverge pretty quickly though; I have simple examples which
> reliably cause a checkpoint because of simple randomness in applications.
>
> Dave
>

And it will become even worse if hwrng is used in guest.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-20  6:42 [Qemu-devel] [POC] colo-proxy in qemu Li Zhijian
2015-07-20 10:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-20 11:55   ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-20 13:12     ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-07-20 15:01       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-21  1:59         ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-28 22:13           ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-21  6:13         ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-21  9:49           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-27 10:13             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-27 11:24               ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-27 11:31                 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-27 13:33               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 22:12                 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-29  7:36                   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-29  9:33                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Samuel Thibault as slirp maintainer Samuel Thibault
2015-08-06 10:10                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-06 12:29                         ` Fam Zheng
2015-08-07 10:19                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-07 10:34                             ` Fam Zheng
2015-07-20 12:02   ` [Qemu-devel] [POC] colo-proxy in qemu Li Zhijian
2015-07-24  2:04   ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-24  2:12     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-24  8:04       ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27  3:24         ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27  3:54           ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27  4:49             ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27  5:51               ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27  7:37                 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27  7:49                   ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27  8:06                     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27  8:22                       ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27  7:53                 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27  8:17                   ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 18:33                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-27 10:40         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-27 13:39           ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-24  2:05 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-30  4:23 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  7:16   ` Gonglei
2015-07-30  7:47     ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-30  8:03       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30  8:15         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2015-07-30 11:56           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 12:10             ` Gonglei
2015-07-30 12:30               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 12:42                 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-30 13:59                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 15:17                     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30 17:53                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-31  1:08                         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-31  1:28                           ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-31  1:31                             ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-31  1:26                         ` zhanghailiang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-11-10  5:26 [Qemu-devel] [POC]colo-proxy " Tkid
2015-11-10  7:35 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10  8:30   ` zhanghailiang
2015-11-11  2:28     ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10  9:35   ` Tkid
2015-11-11  3:04     ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10  9:41   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11  3:09     ` Jason Wang
2015-11-11  9:03       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11  1:23   ` Dong, Eddie
2015-11-11  3:26     ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10 10:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11  2:46   ` Zhang Chen
2015-11-13 12:33     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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