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From: Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com, zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] netfilter: add a netbuffer filter
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:00:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BA3C07.5080103@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55BA31D4.5020402@redhat.com>



On 07/30/2015 10:16 PM, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 30/07/15 12:28, Yang Hongyang wrote:
>> On 07/30/2015 06:14 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/30/2015 05:49 PM, Yang Hongyang wrote:
>>>> On 07/30/2015 05:33 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> [...]
>>>>> I see, so the reason is you are using qemu_deliver_packet() for both
>>>>> enqueuing packet to filter and delivering packet to destination. How
>>>>> about something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> E.g for qemu_send_packet_async(), move the hook before
>>>>> qemu_send_packet_async_with_flags(). Then flush method can call
>>>>> qemu_send_packet_async_with_flags() without any issue?
>>>>
>>>> I think we can't move the hook earlier, because filters only deal
>>>> with the packets will actually been sent. for example, a dump filter.
>>>> dump packet that probably won't been sent is wrong. calling
>>>> qemu_send_packet_async() or qemu_send_packet_async_with_flags()
>>>> doesn't mean the packet is sent, if the sent_cb is not provided and
>>>> the other peer is not able to receive, the packet will be dropped.
>>>
>>> It depends on how do you define 'actually been sent' and whether or not
>>> we should have such accuracy. Packet could be dropped by various layers.
>>> Reaching receive() or receive_iov() does not mean it can be sent for
>>> sure. For example, lots of nics drop packet in their receive()
>>> implementation.
>>
>> This is true, ok, I'm convinced that we might not need to be this accurate.
>> but Thomas might have different opinion, I saw this description in his
>> dump series:
>>
>> +    /*
>> +     * Log network traffic into a dump file. Note: This should ideally
>> +     * be done after calling the ->receive() function below to make sure
>> +     * that we only log the packets that have really been sent. However,
>> +     * this does not work right with slirp networking since it immediately
>> +     * sends reply packets during the receive() function already, so we
>> +     * would get a wrong order of the packets in the dump file in that
>> case.
>> +     */
>>
>> So Thomas, what do you think of this?
>
> IMHO it should be ok if a dump captures a packet multiple times - it's
> not nice, but it could theoretically also happen on a physical line when
> a packet has to be retransmitted.

Ok, thanks! then I'll move the filter hook earlier.

>
>   Thomas
>
>
> .
>

-- 
Thanks,
Yang.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-29 10:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] For QEMU 2.5: Add a netfilter object and netbuffer filter Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] net: add a new object netfilter Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 13:53   ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 14:05     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 14:20       ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 14:32         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] init/cleanup of netfilter object Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 13:33   ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 13:50     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 13:58       ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 14:08         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] netfilter: add netfilter_{add|del} commands Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 14:15   ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 14:28     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 14:30       ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] net: add/remove filters from network backend Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] netfilter: hook packets before receive Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  4:51   ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  7:22     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] netfilter: provide a compat receive_iov Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] net/queue: export qemu_net_queue_append Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] move out net queue structs define Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] netfilter: add a netbuffer filter Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  1:45   ` Li Zhijian
2015-07-30  1:53     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  5:13   ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  6:47     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  8:40       ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  9:04         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  9:33           ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  9:49             ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30 10:14               ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30 10:28                 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30 14:16                   ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-30 15:00                     ` Yang Hongyang [this message]
2015-07-30 13:46                 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  7:00     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  8:52       ` Jason Wang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] netbuffer: add a public api filter_buffer_release_all Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  5:25   ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  5:50     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  8:42       ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  8:53         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  8:50       ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  9:06         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] filter/buffer: add an interval option to buffer filter Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  5:27   ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  5:37     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30  8:53       ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30  9:12         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 10:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] filter/buffer: update command description and help Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] For QEMU 2.5: Add a netfilter object and netbuffer filter Thomas Huth
2015-07-29 13:39   ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-29 13:48     ` Thomas Huth

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