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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@gmail.com>
Cc: Dennis Luehring <dl.soluz@gmx.net>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Debian 7.8.0 SPARC64 on qemu - anything i can do to speedup the emulation?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:47:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DE17BC.1050306@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACXAS8CKjnJ_UB81w1z8ME3mzu=XnqjRnF5Z5zvZndb_-amukA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/26/2015 09:17 AM, Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
> After some debugging I think it's caused by memory faults. On every
> MMU miss / access fault
> TB is re-translated multiple times till the faulting instruction is found.

That shouldn't happen.  Are you certain it's not multiple MMU misses/faults?

> AFAICT we produce data/access faults only on load/store instructions, i.e.
> if GET_FIELD(insn, 0, 1)  == 3. Can this knowledge be used to reduce
> the number of re-translations?

No.

 From the fault, we have a host address where the fault occured.  We then 
retranslate the TB looking for what guest address corresponds to the code 
generated at the host address.  This is a one-pass process, not the multiple 
passes you seem to be imagining.  It also means we can't skip non-memory insns 
during retranslation, as the host addresses would no longer line up.

That said, sun4u is a software managed tlb, which requires *lots* more extra 
faults than a hardware managed tlb.  In the later case, we can perform the page 
table lookup and then continue the memory instruction without faulting.

I think that implementing sun4v, with (most of) the hypervisor actually within 
qemu, is the only way to get good performance for Sparc.

Anyway, this sort of setup is exactly what I did for Alpha.  The PALcode 
(hypervisor-ish) layer used for qemu looks nothing like the PALcode layer used 
for real hardware.


r~

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-26 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28  7:52 [Qemu-devel] Debian 7.8.0 SPARC64 on qemu - anything i can do to speedup the emulation? Dennis Luehring
2015-07-28  9:54 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-07-29  6:20   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29  8:23     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-07-29 15:01     ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-30  3:52       ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-30  7:52         ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-30  8:16           ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-30  8:42             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-07-30  8:55             ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-30  9:35               ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-07-30 10:09                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-30 18:21                   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-30 15:50               ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-31 15:31                 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-07-31 15:43                   ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-02 13:11                     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2015-08-03  8:31                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-03  9:17                       ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-18  9:24                         ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-18 17:55                           ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-19 10:41                             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-19 11:00                               ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-19 14:41                                 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-20  5:22                                   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-20 10:40                                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-20 17:19                                   ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-21  4:32                                     ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-21  5:49                                       ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-21  6:05                                         ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-21 15:47                                           ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-21 16:13                                             ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-21 16:41                                             ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-22 16:45                                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-22 17:47                                       ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-22 18:53                                         ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-23 12:11                                           ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-23  0:41                                       ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-26 16:17                                         ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-26 19:47                                           ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2015-08-27  5:54                                             ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-27 15:04                                               ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-27 15:58                                             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-17 11:32                     ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-03  7:58               ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-03 14:51               ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-03 15:59                 ` Karel Gardas
2015-08-03 19:51                   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-06  9:00                     ` Karel Gardas
2015-08-06  9:21                       ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-06  9:27                         ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-06 12:50                           ` Karel Gardas
2015-08-06 16:35                             ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-18  4:25                       ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-18  8:19                         ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-18 10:39                           ` Dennis Luehring
2015-08-18 11:21                           ` Dennis Luehring
     [not found]                         ` <CAMO55fkcW1eOaZSz2MJgqZEP29pTuHvTLe0Kna5eHYfg7cFyPA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-19  4:28                           ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29  8:07   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29 15:03     ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-29  9:17 ` Karel Gardas
2015-07-29 10:20   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29 13:45     ` Karel Gardas
2015-07-29 15:13       ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-07-29 10:55   ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29 12:34     ` Karel Gardas
2015-07-29 12:38       ` Karel Gardas
2015-07-29 13:55       ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-29 14:41         ` Karel Gardas
2015-07-30  3:47           ` Dennis Luehring
2015-07-30  7:12             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-30  8:31               ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-02 19:12                 ` Alex Bennée
2015-07-30  7:55             ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-17 14:19               ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-17 15:40                 ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-17 16:25                   ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-08-17 21:08                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2015-08-27 15:29 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2015-09-02  4:34   ` Dennis Luehring

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