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From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	gleb@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/18] pc: implement NVDIMM device abstract
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 14:07:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EBD819.6070109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150902133130.720c411a@nial.brq.redhat.com>



On 09/02/2015 07:31 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 18:36:43 +0800
> Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2015 05:58 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:59 +0800
>>> Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Introduce "pc-nvdimm" device and it has two parameters:
>>> Why do you use prefix "pc-", I suppose we potentially
>>> could use this device not only with x86 targets but with
>>> other targets as well.
>>> I'd just drop 'pc' prefix through out patchset.
>>
>> Yeah, the prefix is stolen from pc-dimm, will drop this
>> prefix as your suggestion.
>>
>>>
>>>> - @file, which is the backed memory file for NVDIMM device
>>> Could you try to split device into backend/frontend parts,
>>> like it's done with pc-dimm. As I understand it's preferred
>>> way to implement this kind of devices.
>>> Then you could reuse memory backends that we already have
>>> including file backend.
>>
>> I considered it too and Stefan, Paolo got the some idea in
>> V1's review, however:
>>
>> | However, file-based memory used by NVDIMM is special, it divides the file
>> | to two parts, one part is used as PMEM and another part is used to store
>> | NVDIMM's configure data.
>> |
>> | Maybe we can introduce "end-reserved" property to reserve specified size
>> | at the end of the file. Or create a new class type based on
>> | memory-backend-file (named nvdimm-backend-file) class to hide this magic
>> | thing?
> I'd go with separate backend/frontend idea.
>
> Question is if this config area is part backend or frontend?

Configdata area is used to store nvdimm device's configuration, normally, it's
namespace info.

Currently, we chosen configdata located at the end of nvdimm's backend-memory
as it's easy to configure / use and configdata is naturally non-volatile and it
is like the layout on physical device.

However, using two separated backed-memory is okay, for example:
-object memory-backend-file,id=mem0,file=/storage/foo
-object memory-backend-file,id=mem1,file=/storage/bar
-device nvdimm,memdev=mem0,configdata=mem1
then configdata is written to a single backend.

Which one is better for you? :)

> If we pass-through NVDIMM device do we need to set configdata=true
> and QEMU would skip building config structures and use structures
> that are already present on passed-through device in that place?
>

The file specified by @file is something like a normal disk, like /dev/sda/,
host process can use whole space on it. If we want to directly pass it to guest,
we can specify 'configdata=false'. If we allow guest to 'partition' (create
namespace on) it then we use 'configdata=true' to reserve some space to store
its partition info (namesapce info).

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-06  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-14 14:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/18] implement vNVDIMM Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/18] acpi: allow aml_operation_region() working on 64 bit offset Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02  8:05   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/18] i386/acpi-build: allow SSDT to operate on 64 bit Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 10:06   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-02 10:43     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 11:42       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-06  7:01         ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 12:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/18] acpi: add aml_derefof Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 10:16   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-02 10:38     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/18] acpi: add aml_sizeof Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 10:18   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-02 10:39     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/18] acpi: add aml_create_field Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 11:10   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-06  5:32     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/18] pc: implement NVDIMM device abstract Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 14:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26  9:37     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02  9:58   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-02 10:36     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-02 11:31       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-06  6:07         ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2015-09-07 13:40           ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-08 14:03             ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-10  9:47               ` Igor Mammedov
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/18] nvdimm: reserve address range for NVDIMM Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 15:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26  9:39     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-26  9:40     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 15:39   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-28 17:25   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-08-31  7:01     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-04 12:02   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-06  7:22     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/18] nvdimm: init backend memory mapping and config data area Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:40     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-28 11:58       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-31  6:23         ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-01  9:14           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-15 16:10             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17  8:39               ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-17  9:04                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-17  9:14                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-17  9:34                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 12:43                       ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-15 16:07       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17  8:23         ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-15 16:06     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17  8:21       ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-07 14:11   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-08 13:38     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-10 10:35       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-09-15 16:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/18] nvdimm: build ACPI NFIT table Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-15 16:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-15 17:35     ` Igor Mammedov
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/18] nvdimm: init the address region used by DSM method Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:11   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:41     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/18] nvdimm: build ACPI nvdimm devices Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/18] nvdimm: save arg3 for NVDIMM device _DSM method Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/18] nvdimm: build namespace config data Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:42     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-28 11:59       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-31  6:25         ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/18] nvdimm: support NFIT_CMD_IMPLEMENTED function Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:46     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-28 12:01       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-31  6:51         ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-09-01  9:16           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/18] nvdimm: support NFIT_CMD_GET_CONFIG_SIZE function Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:24   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:47     ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/18] nvdimm: support NFIT_CMD_GET_CONFIG_DATA Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/18] nvdimm: support NFIT_CMD_SET_CONFIG_DATA Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-14 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/18] nvdimm: add maintain info Xiao Guangrong
2015-08-25 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/18] implement vNVDIMM Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26 10:49   ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-10-07 14:02     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-07 14:43       ` Xiao Guangrong
2015-10-09 10:38         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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