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From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] ide/atapi: partially avoid deadlock if the storage backend is dead
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 16:05:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55ED99C7.1070402@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150907134326.GI9593@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

Am 07.09.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 11:24:10AM +0200, Peter Lieven wrote:
>>> Taking a step back, what are the semantics of writing !(val &
>>> BM_CMD_START)?  Is the device guaranteed to cancel/complete requests
>>> during the register write?
>> I have to check that. John, do you have an idea?
>>
>> Stefan, or do you have a better approach for getting rid of the bdrv_drain_all
>> in this piece of code?
> What's needed is an asynchronous approach that honors the semantics of
> the Start/Stop bit.
>
> From "Programming Interface for Bus Master IDE Controller", Revision 1.0:
>
> "Start/Stop Bus Master: Writing a '1' to this bit enables bus master
> operation of the controller.  Bus master operation begins when this bit
> is detected changing from a zero to a one. The controller will transfer
> data between the IDE device and memory only when this bit is set.
> Master operation can be halted by writing a '0' to this bit. All state
> information is lost when a '0' is written; Master mode operation cannot
> be stopped and then resumed. If this bit is reset while bus master
> operation is still active (i.e., the Bus Master IDE Active bit of the
> Bus Master IDE Status register for that IDE channel is set) and the
> drive has not yet finished its data transfer (The Interupt bit in the
> Bus Master IDE Status register for that IDE channel is not set), the bus
> master command is said to be aborted and data transfered from the drive
> may be discarded before being written to system memory. This bit is
> intended to be reset after the data transfer is completed, as indicated
> by either the Bus Master IDE Active bit or the Interrupt bit of the Bus
> Master IDE Status register for that IDE channel being set, or both."
>
> bdrv_aio_cancel() can be used to nudge the request to cancel.  The
> completion function is still called at some later point - and it could
> take an arbitrary amount of time before the request finishes.
>
> From the IDE emulation perspective, there are two requirements:
>
> 1. After the Start bit has been cleared, no IDE state changes should
>    occur due to the pending request.  No interrupts should be raised and
>    no registers should change when the request completes
>    (success/error/cancelled).  Also, the guest should be able to set the
>    bit again and submit a new request.

I think my approach should fullfil this requirement already The callback
into the IDE layer is set to NULL.

>
> 2. No guest memory should be touched by a running request after the bit
>    is cleared.  QEMU needs to go through bounce buffers in all cases
>    instead of doing zero copy (mapping the PRDT).
>
>    Using bounce buffers should be doable but you need to check the IDE
>    code paths (PIO, DMA, and ATAPI) reachable from hw/ide/pci.c.
>    There's also a denial-of-service scenario where the guest repeatedly
>    submits an I/O requests and then clears the Start/Stop bit.  That
>    would cause QEMU to build up many pending I/O requests and bounce
>    buffers.  That needs to be handled, for example by punishing the
>    guest by failing news I/O if there are more than 16 cancelled
>    requests pending.

This sounds doable. I will look into this.

Peter

      reply	other threads:[~2015-09-07 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20  8:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] ide/atapi: partially avoid deadlock if the storage backend is dead Peter Lieven
2015-08-20  8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] block/io: allow AIOCB without callback Peter Lieven
2015-08-21  6:12   ` Eric Blake
2015-08-31  8:38     ` Peter Lieven
2015-08-20  8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] ide/atapi: partially avoid deadlock if the storage backend is dead Peter Lieven
2015-08-21  6:13   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-03 16:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-06  9:24     ` Peter Lieven
2015-09-07 13:43       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-07 14:05         ` Peter Lieven [this message]

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