From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] disk_deadlines: add control of requests time expiration
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:23:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EEEF50.2010200@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150908130556.GF4230@noname.redhat.com>
On 09/08/2015 04:05 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 08.09.2015 um 13:27 hat Denis V. Lunev geschrieben:
>> interesting point. Yes, it flushes all requests and most likely
>> hangs inside waiting requests to complete. But fortunately
>> this happens after the switch to paused state thus
>> the guest becomes paused. That's why I have missed this
>> fact.
>>
>> This (could) be considered as a problem but I have no (good)
>> solution at the moment. Should think a bit on.
> Let me suggest a radically different design. Note that I don't say this
> is necessarily how things should be done, I'm just trying to introduce
> some new ideas and broaden the discussion, so that we have a larger set
> of ideas from which we can pick the right solution(s).
>
> The core of my idea would be a new filter block driver 'timeout' that
> can be added on top of each BDS that could potentially fail, like a
> raw-posix BDS pointing to a file on NFS. This way most pieces of the
> solution are nicely modularised and don't touch the block layer core.
>
> During normal operation the driver would just be passing through
> requests to the lower layer. When it detects a timeout, however, it
> completes the request it received with -ETIMEDOUT. It also completes any
> new request it receives with -ETIMEDOUT without passing the request on
> until the request that originally timed out returns. This is our safety
> measure against anyone seeing whether or how the timed out request
> modified data.
>
> We need to make sure that bdrv_drain() doesn't wait for this request.
> Possibly we need to introduce a .bdrv_drain callback that replaces the
> default handling, because bdrv_requests_pending() in the default
> handling considers bs->file, which would still have the timed out
> request. We don't want to see this; bdrv_drain_all() should complete
> even though that request is still pending internally (externally, we
> returned -ETIMEDOUT, so we can consider it completed). This way the
> monitor stays responsive and background jobs can go on if they don't use
> the failing block device.
>
> And then we essentially reuse the rerror/werror mechanism that we
> already have to stop the VM. The device models would be extended to
> always stop the VM on -ETIMEDOUT, regardless of the error policy. In
> this state, the VM would even be migratable if you make sure that the
> pending request can't modify the image on the destination host any more.
>
> Do you think this could work, or did I miss something important?
>
> Kevin
could I propose even more radical solution then?
My original approach was based on the fact that
this could should be maintainable out-of-stream.
If the patch will be merged - this boundary condition
could be dropped.
Why not to invent 'terror' field on BdrvOptions
and process things in core block layer without
a filter? RB Tree entry will just not created if
the policy will be set to 'ignore'.
Den
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-08 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-08 8:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] disk deadlines Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] add QEMU style defines for __sync_add_and_fetch Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 8:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] disk_deadlines: add request to resume Virtual Machine Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 8:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-10 19:18 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-14 16:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] disk_deadlines: add disk-deadlines option per drive Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 9:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] disk_deadlines: add control of requests time expiration Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 9:35 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 9:42 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 11:06 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 11:27 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 13:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 14:23 ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]
2015-09-08 14:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-10 10:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-10 11:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-14 16:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-25 12:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-28 12:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-28 13:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] disk_deadlines: add info disk-deadlines option Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 16:20 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-08 16:26 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-10 18:53 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 19:13 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 8:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] disk deadlines Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-09-08 9:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 10:13 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 10:46 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:49 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 13:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 9:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 9:41 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 9:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 10:37 ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-09-08 10:50 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 10:08 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 10:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 10:36 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 19:11 ` John Snow
2015-09-10 19:29 ` [Qemu-devel] Summary: " Denis V. Lunev
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