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From: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] allow writing to the backing file
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:19:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EFF996.5070202@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E71E6A.1000001@redhat.com>

On 09/03/2015 12:06 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 09/02/2015 02:51 AM, Wen Congyang wrote:
>> Signed-off-by: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
>> Signed-off-by: zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
> 
> Not much description in the commit message.  I really want an
> explanation of why this patch is necessary.  After all, with

For COLO, we have such backing chain:
secondary disk <-- hidden disk <-- active disk
secondary disk is top BDS(use bacing reference), so it can be opened in read-write mode.
But hidden disk is read only, and we need to write to hidden disk(backup job
will write data to it).

> 'block-commit', we were able to turn on read-write mode of backing files
> on an as-needed basis, without having to expose that to the end user.
> Giving the end user a knob that they must tune feels a bit awkward, and
> probably means we don't have the design right.
> 
>> ---
>>  block.c              | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>  qapi/block-core.json |  7 ++++++-
>>  2 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
> 
>> +#define ALLOW_WRITE_BACKING_FILE    "allow-write-backing-file"
>> +static QemuOptsList backing_file_opts = {
>> +    .name = "backing_file",
>> +    .head = QTAILQ_HEAD_INITIALIZER(backing_file_opts.head),
>> +    .desc = {
>> +        {
>> +            .name = ALLOW_WRITE_BACKING_FILE,
>> +            .type = QEMU_OPT_BOOL,
>> +            .help = "allow write to backing file",
> 
> If you do add more justification for why this patch is necessary, then,
> 
> s/write/writes/
> 
>> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
>> @@ -1408,6 +1408,10 @@
>>  # @detect-zeroes: #optional detect and optimize zero writes (Since 2.1)
>>  #                 (default: off)
>>  #
>> +# @allow-write-backing-file: #optional whether the backing file is opened in
>> +#                            read-write mode. It is only for backing file
>> +#                            (Since 2.5 default: false)
>> +#
> 
> The name feels a bit long.
> 
> It sounds like it is an error to pass allow-write-backing-file for a
> top-level BDS (that is, the BDS associated with a BB).  Meanwhile, the
> default for any backing chain BDS is to open it read-only, regardless of
> the 'read-only' setting of the parent.  But can we just allow
> 'read-only':false on a backing BDS to mean that the BDS starts life as
> read-write, without having to add a new parameter?
> 

We have discussed it before:
http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-02/msg04468.html

Thanks
Wen Congyang

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-02  8:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/16] introduce a new API to enable/disable attach device model Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 15:37   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-07  1:27     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/16] introduce a new API to check if blk is attached Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 15:40   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 16:06   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-09  9:19     ` Wen Congyang [this message]
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/16] block: Allow references for backing files Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 18:50   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-09  8:51     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/16] introduce a new API qemu_opts_absorb_qdict_by_index() Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 19:01   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-07  2:18     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] quorum: allow ignoring child errors Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 16:30   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-07  3:40     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-07 16:56     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-08  0:46       ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/16] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 14:10   ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/16] block: make bdrv_put_ref_bh_schedule() as a public API Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 14:12   ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/16] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 20:41   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-09  8:22     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/16] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 16:33   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-09  9:24     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:14     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/16] skip nbd_target when starting " Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/16] Implement new driver " Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/16] support replication driver in blockdev-add Wen Congyang
2015-09-02 16:36   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-09  8:27     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-02  8:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] Add a new API to start/stop replication, do checkpoint to all BDSes Wen Congyang

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