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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-trivial@nongnu.org, peter.maydell@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] add macro file for coccinelle
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 11:51:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F00119.4000305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r3m8g3na.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>



On 08/09/2015 20:35, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> > Having not used Coccinelle yet, what happens if any of these functions
>> > become desynchronized ?
> Coccinelle transforms C to C.  Problem: if you parse C the normal way
> (first run preprocessor, then the parser proper), you have to unparse
> and unpreprocess at the end to get a useful result.  Unparsing is easy,
> but unpreprocessing is hard.
> 
> Instead, Coccinelle tries to parse *unpreprocessed* C.  Works most of
> the time, because most uses of function-like macros can be treated as if
> they were function calls, and most uses of object-like macros can be
> treated as if they were values.
> 
> When it doesn't work, Coccinelle needs to resort to magic and / or skip
> over some code it can't decipher.  The latter is undesirable, because if
> the skipped code contains something we'd like to transform, we won't.
> 
> Part of the magic is treating "bad" macros specially.  --macro-file
> helps with that part: macros defined there are "bad".  Sorry, I can't
> really explain it, -EMAGIC.  /usr/share/coccinelle/standard.h is used by
> default.
> 
> So what happens when the this file gets out of sync?  Worst case is
> Coccinelle misses a pattern it could find if it was in sync.
> 
> Provided the macro file makes sense initially, a moderately bit-rotten
> version is still almost certainly better than nothing.

Great answer.  I'll only add that exactly the same issue happens with
the Coverity model.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-07 10:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] add macro file for coccinelle Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 11:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-09-08 12:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 13:08     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-09-08 13:31   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-trivial] " Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-09-08 17:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2015-09-08 18:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-09-09  9:51     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-09-10 21:23       ` John Snow
2015-09-15 17:55 ` Michael Tokarev

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