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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Sam Bobroff <sam.bobroff@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: michael@ellerman.id.au, amit.shah@redhat.com,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH v2 1/2] spapr: Add support for hwrng when available
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 23:10:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F0A036.2090508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150908051528.GD24774@voom.redhat.com>

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On 08/09/15 07:15, David Gibson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 03:03:16PM +1000, Sam Bobroff wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 12:53:26PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>> On 01/09/15 02:38, David Gibson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 08:46:01PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>>>> From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some powerpc systems have support for a hardware random number generator
>>>>> (hwrng). If such a hwrng is present the host kernel can provide access
>>>>> to it via the H_RANDOM hcall.
...
>> What if we set up another backend that just enables the hcall in KVM?
> 
> I think that's basically the right approach.
> 
> It can't quite be a "backend" as such, since the in-kernel hcall can
> only supply H_RANDOM; it can't supply random for other purposes like
> virtio-rng, which the general qemu rng backends can.
> 
> So I'd suggest two options controlling H_RANDOM:
> 	usekvm : boolean  [default true]
> 		Whether to enable the in-kernel implementation if
> 		available
> 	backend : ref to rng backend object [no default]
> 		Backend to use if in-kernel implementation is
> 		unavailable or disabled.
> 
> At this point rather than just implementing them as discrete machine
> options, I suspect it will be more maintainable to split out the
> h-random implementation as a pseudo-device with its own qdev and so
> forth.  We already do similarly for the RTAS time of day functions
> (spapr-rtc).

I gave that I try, but it does not work as expected. To be able to
specify the options, I'd need to instantiate this device with the
"-device" option, right? Something like:

	-device spapr-rng,backend=rng0,usekvm=0

Now this does not work when I use TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE as parent class
like it is done for spapr-rtc, since the user apparently can not plug
device to this bus on machine spapr (you can also not plug an spapr-rtc
device this way!).

The spapr-vlan, spapr-vty, etc. devices are TYPE_VIO_SPAPR_DEVICE, so I
also tried that instead, but then the rng device suddenly shows up under
/vdevice in the device tree - that's also not what we want, I guess.

So I am currently not sure whether this is the right approach. Any
recommendations? Or shall I stick with the machine option?

 Thomas



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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-31 18:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] ppc/spapr_hcall: Implement H_RANDOM hypercall Thomas Huth
2015-08-31 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] spapr: Add support for hwrng when available Thomas Huth
2015-09-01  0:38   ` David Gibson
2015-09-01 10:53     ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-08  5:03       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Sam Bobroff
2015-09-08  5:15         ` David Gibson
2015-09-09 21:10           ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2015-09-10  7:33             ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-10 10:40               ` David Gibson
2015-09-10 12:03                 ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-10 12:13                   ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-11  0:46                     ` David Gibson
2015-09-11  9:43                       ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-14  2:27                         ` David Gibson
2015-09-14  7:36                           ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-11  0:45                   ` David Gibson
2015-09-11  7:30                     ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-14  2:25                       ` David Gibson
2015-09-08  5:38         ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-09  0:54           ` Sam Bobroff
2015-09-10 12:06             ` Greg Kurz
2015-09-09 14:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Greg Kurz
2015-08-31 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] ppc/spapr_hcall: Implement H_RANDOM hypercall in QEMU Thomas Huth
2015-09-01  0:47   ` David Gibson
2015-09-01 11:03     ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-07 15:05     ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-08  1:14       ` David Gibson
2015-09-02  5:34   ` Amit Shah
2015-09-02  7:48     ` David Gibson
2015-09-02  8:58       ` Thomas Huth
2015-09-02 10:06         ` Amit Shah
2015-09-02 10:02       ` Amit Shah
2015-09-03  1:21       ` Michael Ellerman
2015-09-03  2:17         ` David Gibson

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