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From: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/38] blockdev: Add blockdev-insert-medium
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:12:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55F0D901.1010607@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F02D3D.6020102@redhat.com>

On 09/09/2015 08:59 PM, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 09.09.2015 12:01, Wen Congyang wrote:
>> On 09/09/2015 05:20 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>>> On 08.09.2015 11:13, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>> On 07/21/2015 01:45 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>> And a helper function for that, which directly takes a pointer to the
>>>>> BDS to be inserted instead of its node-name (which will be used for
>>>>> implementing 'change' using blockdev-insert-medium).
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  blockdev.c           | 48 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>  qapi/block-core.json | 17 +++++++++++++++++
>>>>>  qmp-commands.hx      | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>  3 files changed, 102 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/blockdev.c b/blockdev.c
>>>>> index 481760a..a80d0e2 100644
>>>>> --- a/blockdev.c
>>>>> +++ b/blockdev.c
>>>>> @@ -2164,6 +2164,54 @@ void qmp_blockdev_remove_medium(const char *device, Error **errp)
>>>>>      }
>>>>>  }
>>>>>  
>>>>> +static void qmp_blockdev_insert_anon_medium(const char *device,
>>>>> +                                            BlockDriverState *bs, Error **errp)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    BlockBackend *blk;
>>>>> +    bool has_device;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    blk = blk_by_name(device);
>>>>> +    if (!blk) {
>>>>> +        error_set(errp, ERROR_CLASS_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND,
>>>>> +                  "Device '%s' not found", device);
>>>>> +        return;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    /* For BBs without a device, we can exchange the BDS tree at will */
>>>>> +    has_device = blk_get_attached_dev(blk);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    if (has_device && !blk_dev_has_removable_media(blk)) {
>>>>> +        error_setg(errp, "Device '%s' is not removable", device);
>>>>> +        return;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    if (has_device && !blk_dev_is_tray_open(blk)) {
>>>>> +        error_setg(errp, "Tray of device '%s' is not open", device);
>>>>> +        return;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    if (blk_bs(blk)) {
>>>>> +        error_setg(errp, "There already is a medium in device '%s'", device);
>>>>> +        return;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    blk_insert_bs(blk, bs);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>> +void qmp_blockdev_insert_medium(const char *device, const char *node_name,
>>>>> +                                Error **errp)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    BlockDriverState *bs;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +    bs = bdrv_find_node(node_name);
>>>>> +    if (!bs) {
>>>>> +        error_setg(errp, "Node '%s' not found", node_name);
>>>>> +        return;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, it is OK if the bs is not top BDS?
>>>
>>> I think so, yes. Generally, there's probably no reason to do that, but I
>>> don't know why we should not allow that case. For instance, you might
>>> want to make a backing file available read-only somewhere.
>>>
>>> It should be impossible to make it available writable, and it should not
>>> be allowed to start a block-commit operation while the backing file can
>>> be accessed by the guest, but this should be achieved using op blockers.
>>>
>>> What we need for this to work are fine-grained op blockers, I think. But
>>> working around that for now by only allowing to insert top BDS won't
>>> work, since you can still start block jobs which target top BDS, too
>>> (e.g. blockdev-backup can write to a BDS/BB that is visible to the guest).
>>>
>>> All in all, I think it's fine to insert non-top BDS, but we should
>>> definitely worry about which exact BDS one can insert once we have
>>> fine-grained op blockers.
>>
>> A BDS can be written by its parent, its block backend, a block job..
>> So I think we should have some way to avoid more than two sources writing
>> to it, otherwise the data may be corrupted.
> 
> Yes, and that would be op blockers.
> 
> As I said, using blockdev-backup you can write to a BB that can be
> written to by the guest as well. I think this is a bug, but it is a bug
> that needs to be fixed by having better op blockers in place, which Jeff
> Cody is working on.
> 
> Regarding this series, I don't consider this to be too big of an issue.
> Yes, if you are working with floppy disks, you can have the case of a
> block job and the guest writing to the BDS at the same time. But I can't
> really imagine who would use floppy disks and block jobs at the same
> time (people who still use floppy disks for their VMs don't strike me as
> the kind of people who use the management features of qemu, especially
> not for those floppy disks).
> 
> Other than that, this function (blockdev-insert-medium) can only be used
> for optical ROM devices (I don't think we have CD/DVD-RW support, do
> we?), so it's much less of an issue there.
> 
> So all in all I don't consider this too big of an issue here. If others
> think different, then I would delay this part of the series (which
> overhauls the "change" command) until we have fine-grained op blockers.

In most cases, the user uses this command to change CD/DVD media, so it is OK.
But IIRC scsi disk can also be changed. So we can mark this command as experimental
(the command name can be x-blockdev-insert-medium).

Thanks
Wen Congyang

> 
> Max
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-20 17:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/38] blockdev: BlockBackend and media Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/38] block: Remove host floppy support Max Reitz
2015-09-07 15:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-07 16:26     ` Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/38] blockdev: Allow creation of BDS trees without BB Max Reitz
2015-09-07 16:12   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-07 16:38     ` Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/38] iotests: Only create BB if necessary Max Reitz
2015-09-07 16:20   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-07 16:54     ` Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/38] block: Make bdrv_is_inserted() return a bool Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/38] block: Add blk_is_available() Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/38] block: Make bdrv_is_inserted() recursive Max Reitz
2015-09-07 17:43   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-07 18:03     ` Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/38] block/quorum: Implement bdrv_is_inserted() Max Reitz
2015-09-07 18:03   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-07 18:04     ` Max Reitz
2015-09-07 18:16       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/38] block: Invoke change media CB before NULLing drv Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/38] hw/block/fdc: Implement tray status Max Reitz
2015-09-07 18:13   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/38] hw/usb-storage: Check whether BB is inserted Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/38] block: Fix BB AIOCB AioContext without BDS Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/38] block: Move guest_block_size into BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/38] block: Remove wr_highest_sector from BlockAcctStats Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/38] block: Move BlockAcctStats into BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 15/38] block: Move I/O status and error actions into BB Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 16/38] block: Add BlockBackendRootState Max Reitz
2015-09-11 23:20   ` Eric Blake
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 17/38] block: Make some BB functions fall back to BBRS Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 18/38] block: Fail requests to empty BlockBackend Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 19/38] block: Prepare remaining BB functions for NULL BDS Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 20/38] block: Add blk_insert_bs() Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 21/38] block: Prepare for NULL BDS Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 22/38] blockdev: Do not create BDS for empty drive Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 23/38] blockdev: Pull out blockdev option extraction Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 24/38] blockdev: Allow more options for BB-less BDS tree Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 25/38] block: Add blk_remove_bs() Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 26/38] blockdev: Add blockdev-open-tray Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 27/38] blockdev: Add blockdev-close-tray Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 28/38] blockdev: Add blockdev-remove-medium Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/38] blockdev: Add blockdev-insert-medium Max Reitz
2015-09-08  5:53   ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-08 15:57     ` Eric Blake
2015-09-08  9:13   ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-08 21:20     ` Max Reitz
2015-09-09 10:01       ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-09 12:59         ` Max Reitz
2015-09-10  1:12           ` Wen Congyang [this message]
2015-09-10 19:09             ` Max Reitz
2015-09-11  7:30               ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-11 17:01                 ` Max Reitz
2015-09-10  3:22           ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-10 19:10             ` Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 30/38] blockdev: Implement eject with basic operations Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 31/38] blockdev: Implement change " Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 32/38] block: Inquire tray state before tray-moved events Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 33/38] qmp: Introduce blockdev-change-medium Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 34/38] hmp: Use blockdev-change-medium for change command Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 35/38] blockdev: read-only-mode for blockdev-change-medium Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 36/38] hmp: Add read-only-mode option to change command Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 37/38] iotests: More options for VM.add_drive() Max Reitz
2015-07-20 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 38/38] iotests: Add test for change-related QMP commands Max Reitz
2015-09-02 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/38] blockdev: BlockBackend and media Eric Blake
2015-09-07  5:53   ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-07 18:42     ` Max Reitz

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