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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	stefanha@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] block: mirror - zero unallocated target sectors when zero init not present
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:42:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560A4F0A.50005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150929081034.GA3930@noname.str.redhat.com>



On 29/09/2015 10:10, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> When mode == 'existing' for a shallow mirror (sync != 'full'),
>> that is the caller stating that the guest-visible contents of the
>> destination match the guest-visible contents of the backing
>> image.  The only sectors to be copied are those that differ from
>> the backing file, and we should not be zeroing unrelated sectors
>> because the user has already promised they have the same
>> guest-visible content as the backing image would report.
> 
> Where is this promise documented? I wasn't aware of it and can't
> seem to find it in the QAPI documentation of drive-mirror.

I don't think it is really a promise, but it's the only sensible way
to use this combination.

Paolo

>> When mode == 'existing' for a full mirror (sync == 'full'), that
>> is the caller stating that they want every single sector of the
>> destination written to hold the current state of the source (of
>> course, allowing for optimizations such as skipping the write
>> where the contents will read back the same as if the write had
>> been performed).
>> 
>> I think Paolo is right: we care about zeroing unallocated sectors
>> for sync == 'full', regardless of whether mode == 'existing'.
> 
> I agree.
> 
>> I also think the reason Jeff confused it for mode == 'existing'
>> is that the other modes let qemu create the file, but qemu does
>> not create block devices (the only way to mirror to a block
>> device is via mode == 'existing'), and it is primarily block
>> devices where zero init is not guaranteed.
> 
> 'qemu-img create' works on block devices (even though for raw it
> doesn't do more than checking if it's large enough; but for qcow2,
> it's obvious that it's necessary), so I'm pretty sure that mode !=
> 'existing' works on them as well.
> 
> Kevin
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-29  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-28  3:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] block: mirror - Write zeroes for unallocated sectors if no zero init Jeff Cody
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] block: allow creation of detached dirty bitmaps Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 15:13   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-28 16:38   ` Max Reitz
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] block: mirror - split out part of mirror_run() Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-28 14:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 16:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] block: mirror - zero unallocated target sectors when zero init not present Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-28 20:31     ` Eric Blake
2015-09-29  8:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-29  8:42         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-09-29  9:35           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-29 10:52             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 14:43               ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 15:16                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 15:26                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-30 16:02                   ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 16:06                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01  8:23                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:32     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-29  2:48       ` Eric Blake
2015-09-28 15:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:57     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-29  8:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 15:10   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:58     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 15:23   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-30 15:11     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 15:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 17:32   ` Max Reitz
2015-09-29  8:39     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-29 14:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini

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