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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:40:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560D7E04.5020505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <560D6DBD.9010305@redhat.com>

On 10/01/15 19:30, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/10/2015 19:07, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>> In addition, C89 didn't say at all what the result was for signed data
>>> types, so technically we could compile QEMU with -std=gnu89 (the default
>>> until GCC5) and call it a day.
>>>
>>> Really the C standard should make this implementation-defined.
>>
>> Obligatory link: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/1180
> 
> Many ideas in there are good (e.g. mem*() being defined for invalid
> argument and zero lengths, and of course item 7 which is the issue at
> hand).  In many cases it's also good to change undefined behavior to
> unspecified values, however I think that goes too far.
> 
> For example I'm okay with signed integer overflow being undefined
> behavior, and I also disagree with "It is permissible to compute
> out-of-bounds pointer values including performing pointer arithmetic on
> the null pointer".  Using uintptr_t is just fine.
> 
> Also strict aliasing improves performance noticeably at least on some
> kind of code.  The relaxation of strict aliasing that GCC does with
> unions would be a useful addition to the C standard, though.

What do you mean under "relaxation of strict aliasing that GCC does with
unions"? I believe I know how unions affect this (although for details
I'd obviously have to consult the standard :)), but what are the gcc
specific parts?

Thanks!
Laszlo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-01 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-29 20:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: Fix undefined behavior on bit shifts Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-30 13:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 20:24     ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01  8:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01  9:24       ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 13:52         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 17:07           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-01 17:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 17:38               ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 19:17                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02  8:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:14                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02 12:07                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-04  2:34                         ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-10-01 20:35                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-01 18:40               ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2015-10-02  8:48                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: Don't left shift negative constant Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-01  1:35   ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01 17:06     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 15:07       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 18:20         ` Richard Henderson

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