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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Dovgaluk <Pavel.Dovgaluk@ispras.ru>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] events doubts
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 12:23:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5614F2AA.5080100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002e01d100e5$97a8ade0$c6fa09a0$@Dovgaluk@ispras.ru>



On 07/10/2015 11:50, Pavel Dovgaluk wrote:
>> From: Paolo Bonzini [mailto:paolo.bonzini@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paolo Bonzini
>> On 07/10/2015 10:21, Pavel Dovgaluk wrote:
>>> There are two kinds of events:
>>> - read from the log and injected immediately (user input, network input)
>>> - read from the log and wait for corresponding event in the queue (BH)
>>>
>>> We cannot inject BH event immediately because we do not have any information
>>> about callback
>>
>> Actually we do (indirectly, through aio_bh_call).  But that may not be
>> the central issue, because...
>>
>>> and to preserve consistency - BH cannot be processed before
>>> it is scheduled by qemu core.
>>
>> ... you are processing them differently anyway between record mode
>> (where the BH is scheduled by the core) and replay (where the BH is
>> called directly).
> 
> In record it also called through replay. It is scheduled into the replay
> events queue and called at checkpoint, where queue is flushed.
> 
>> In fact, I don't understand what introduces the difference between
>> record and replay that requires special handling of ptimers' bottom
>> halves.  In both cases, the ptimer triggers at the desired time (based
>> on checkpoints) and then the bottom half is called as soon as possible.
>>  Why is a separate async event necessary?
> 
> We want to preserve order of all events that affect virtual machine behavior,
> not only instructions execution. These events include processing of
> interrupts, exceptions, and bottom halves.
> That is why bottom halves are bind to checkpoints and recorded into the log.
> 
>> Because we only care about bottom halves from ptimers, their order
>> should be the same for both record and replay.
>>
>> If bottom halves async events could be removed, that would simplify a
>> lot the code, and it would make it a lot easier to understand for me.
> 
> I added ptimer handling because replay didn't work when I removed BH queuing.

Ok, got it.  I still want to understand exactly the need for the init
and reset checkpoints, and the placement of qemu_clock_warp calls, but
apart from that the patches are good to go for 2.5.  Thanks for your
persistence!

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 20:00 [Qemu-devel] [RFH PATCH 0/4] record/replay fixups and doubts Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-06 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] replay: generalize ptimer event to bottom halves Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07  7:53   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-06 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] more replay fixes Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-06 20:13   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-07  8:11   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-06 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] why is runstate_is_running needed? Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07  8:14   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
     [not found]   ` <22126.3941414238$1444205724@news.gmane.org>
2015-10-07  8:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07  9:37   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-06 20:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] events doubts Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07  8:21   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
     [not found]   ` <35633.6639299572$1444206177@news.gmane.org>
2015-10-07  8:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07  9:50       ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-07 10:23         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-10-07 10:42           ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-07 10:48             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-07 10:51               ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-07 14:59                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-13  8:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFH PATCH 0/4] record/replay fixups and doubts Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-13 16:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-23  7:28 ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2015-10-23  8:12   ` Paolo Bonzini

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