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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Anthony.Perard@citrix.com, Fabio Fantoni <fabio.fantoni@m2r.biz>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Question about xen disk unplug support for ahci missed in qemu
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:40:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <562160CC.8050204@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1510131804060.27957@kaball.uk.xensource.com>



On 10/13/2015 01:10 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, John Snow wrote:
>> On 10/13/2015 11:55 AM, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
>>> I added ahci disk support in libxl and using it for week seems that was
>>> ok, after a reply of Stefano Stabellini seems that xen disk unplug
>>> support only ide disks:
>>> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=commitdiff;h=679f4f8b178e7c66fbc2f39c905374ee8663d5d8
>>>
>>> Today Paul Durrant told me that even if pv disk is ok also with ahci and
>>> the emulated one is offline can be a risk:
>>> http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/win-pv-devel/2015-10/msg00021.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried to take a fast look in qemu code but I not understand the needed
>>> thing for add the xen disk unplug support also for ahci, can someone do
>>> it or tell me useful information for do it please?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any reply and sorry for my bad english.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure what features you need AHCI to support in order
>> for Xen to be happy.
>>
>> I'd guess hotplugging, but where I get confused is that IDE disks don't
>> support hotplugging either, so I guess I'm not sure sure what you need.
>>
>> Stefano, can you help bridge my Xen knowledge gap?
>  
> Hi John,
> 
> we need something like hw/i386/xen/xen_platform.c:unplug_disks but that
> can unplug AHCI disk. And by unplug, I mean "make disappear" like
> pci_piix3_xen_ide_unplug does for ide.
> 

I'm trying to follow this discussion as best as I am able, but my lack
of experience with Xen prevents me from really participating in a
meaningful way.

(I see that Laszlo is still discussing some CD-ROM issues with Fabio
which may be of interest to me...)

At any rate, I won't be authoring any Xen-specific hacks to the AHCI
device, but I do have plans to implement hot-plugging emulation as per
the AHCI spec. Perhaps this is sufficient for the Xen layer, but someone
else will need to author the appropriate glue code.

If "real" hot-plugging is not sufficient, we'll need to discuss further,
preferably over some RFC patches.

Thanks,
--js

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-13 15:55 [Qemu-devel] Question about xen disk unplug support for ahci missed in qemu Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-13 16:45 ` John Snow
2015-10-13 17:10   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-14  9:47     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-14 11:06       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-14 11:27         ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-15 23:10           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-16  2:38             ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-10-16  9:06               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-16  9:21                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-16  9:33                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-16  9:34                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-16 13:03                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-10-16  9:13               ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-14 11:32         ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2015-10-14 11:44           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-15 16:27         ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-15 18:02           ` Anthony PERARD
2015-10-16  8:32             ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-16 10:13               ` Anthony PERARD
2015-10-16 10:23                 ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-16 10:47                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-16 11:34                     ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-16 19:09                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-19 20:32                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-20 11:59                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-20 12:45                             ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-20 14:52                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-14 11:11       ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-14 12:48         ` Paul Durrant
2015-10-15 23:35           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-16 14:04           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-16 14:24             ` Paul Durrant
2015-10-16 15:02               ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-16 15:10                 ` Paul Durrant
2015-10-16 16:11                   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-16 16:20                     ` Paul Durrant
2015-10-16 16:42                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-16 16:53                         ` Paul Durrant
2015-10-16 17:03                           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-10-19 13:42                           ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-16 16:53                       ` Eric Blake
2015-10-16 20:40     ` John Snow [this message]
2015-10-19 10:18       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-19 11:27         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-10-19 11:44           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-19 16:54             ` John Snow
2015-10-19 16:57               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-19 18:29                 ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-19 19:55                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-19 14:17         ` Fabio Fantoni
2015-10-19 14:57           ` Stefano Stabellini

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