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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Valerio Aimale <valerio@aimale.com>,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU patch to allow VM introspection via libvmi
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:02:38 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <562A925E.7020806@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151023192427.GK3736@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

On 10/23/2015 09:24 AM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 08:35:15AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:54:23PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> Valerio Aimale <valerio@aimale.com> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>>> There's also a similar patch, floating around the internet, the uses
>>>>> shared memory, instead of sockets, as inter-process communication
>>>>> between libvmi and QEMU. I've never used that.
>>>>
>>>> By the time you built a working IPC mechanism on top of shared memory,
>>>> you're often no better off than with AF_LOCAL sockets.
>>>>
>>>> Crazy idea: can we allocate guest memory in a way that support sharing
>>>> it with another process?  Eduardo, can -mem-path do such wild things?
>>>
>>> It can't today, but just because it creates a temporary file inside
>>> mem-path and unlinks it immediately after opening a file descriptor. We
>>> could make memory-backend-file also accept a full filename as argument,
>>> or add a mechanism to let QEMU send the open file descriptor to a QMP
>>> client.
>>
>> Valerio, would an command line option to share guest memory suffice, or
>> does it have to be a monitor command?  If the latter, why?
>>
>> Eduardo, I'm not sure writing to guest memory behind TCG's back will
>> work.  Do you know?
>
> I don't know. I guess it may possibly surprise TCG depending on how some
> operations are implemented, but it sounds unlikely. CCing Richard.

Writing to guest memory will work, in that the guest will see the changes.  The 
harder part is synchronization.  Here you'll face all the same problems that 
are currently being addressed in the multi-threaded tcg patch sets.


r~

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-23 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-15 23:44 [Qemu-devel] QEMU patch to allow VM introspection via libvmi valerio
2015-10-15 23:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] QEMU patch for libvmi to introspect QEMU/kvm virtual machines. Usually this patch is distributed with libvmi, but, it might be more useful to have it in the QEMU source permanently valerio
2015-10-19 21:33   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-21 15:11     ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-16  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] QEMU patch to allow VM introspection via libvmi Markus Armbruster
2015-10-16 14:30   ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-19  7:52     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-19 14:37       ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-21 10:54         ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-21 15:50           ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-22 11:50             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-22 18:11               ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23  6:31                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-22 18:43           ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-22 18:54             ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 19:12           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-22 19:57             ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-22 20:03               ` Eric Blake
2015-10-22 20:45                 ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-22 21:47               ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-22 21:51                 ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23  8:25                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-10-23 19:00                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 18:55                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 19:08                     ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-26  9:09                       ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-26 17:37                         ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-26 17:52                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-27 14:17                             ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-27 15:00                               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-27 15:18                                 ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-27 15:31                                   ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-27 16:11                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-27 16:27                                     ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23  6:35             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-23  8:18               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-10-23 14:48                 ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23 14:44               ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23 14:56                 ` Eric Blake
2015-10-23 15:03                   ` Valerio Aimale
2015-10-23 19:24               ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 20:02                 ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2015-11-02 12:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini

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