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From: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v10 08/10] Implement new driver for block replication
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:57:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <562EE826.7000902@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151016113757.GA10205@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

On 10/16/2015 07:37 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:22:05AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
>> On 10/15/2015 10:55 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:19:17AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>> On 10/14/2015 10:27 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:08:17PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/13/2015 12:27 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 02:17:36PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>>>>>>> +        /* start backup job now */
>>>>>>>> +        bdrv_op_unblock(s->hidden_disk, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_TARGET,
>>>>>>>> +                        s->active_disk->backing_blocker);
>>>>>>>> +        bdrv_op_unblock(s->secondary_disk, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_SOURCE,
>>>>>>>> +                        s->hidden_disk->backing_blocker);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it safe to unblock these operations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do they have to be blocked for non-replication users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hidden_disk and secondary disk are opened as backing file, so it is blocked for
>>>>>> non-replication users.
>>>>>> What can I do if I don't unblock it and want to do backup?
>>>>>
>>>>> CCing Jeff Cody, block jobs maintainer
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to explain why it is safe remove this protection.  We can't
>>>>> merge code that may be unsafe.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we can investigate further by asking: when does QEMU code assume
>>>>> the backing file is read-only?
>>>>
>>>> The backing file is opened in read-only mode. I want to reopen it in read-write
>>>> mode here in the next version(So the patch 1 will be dropped)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't checked but these cases come to mind:
>>>>>
>>>>> Operations that move data between BDS in the backing chain (e.g. commit
>>>>> and stream block jobs) will lose or overwrite data if the backing file
>>>>> is being written to by another coroutine.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to prevent users from running these operations at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but qemu doesn't provide such API.
>>>
>>> This series can't be merged unless it is safe.
>>>
>>> Have you looked at op blockers and thought about how to prevent unsafe
>>> operations?
>>
>> What about this solution:
>> 1. unblock it in bdrv_set_backing_hd()
>> 2. block it in qmp_block_commit(), qmp_block_stream(), qmp_block_backup()..., to
>>    prevent unsafe operations
> 
> Come to think of it, currently QEMU only supports 1 block job per BDS.
> 
> This means that as long as COLO has a backup job running, no other block
> jobs can interfere.
> 
> There still might be a risk with monitor commands like 'commit'.

What about this?
diff --git a/block.c b/block.c
index e9f40dc..b181d67 100644
--- a/block.c
+++ b/block.c
@@ -1162,6 +1162,24 @@ void bdrv_set_backing_hd(BlockDriverState *bs, BlockDriverState *backing_hd)
     /* Otherwise we won't be able to commit due to check in bdrv_commit */
     bdrv_op_unblock(backing_hd, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_COMMIT_TARGET,
                     bs->backing_blocker);
+    /*
+     * We do backup in 3 ways:
+     * 1. drive backup
+     *    The target bs is new opened, and the source is top BDS
+     * 2. blockdev backup
+     *    Both the source and the target are top BDSes.
+     * 3. internal backup(used for block replication)
+     *    Both the source and the target are backing file
+     *
+     * In case 1, and 2, the backing file is neither the source nor
+     * the target.
+     * In case 3, we will block the top BDS, so there is only one block
+     * job for the top BDS and its backing chain.
+     */
+    bdrv_op_unblock(backing_hd, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_SOURCE,
+                    bs->backing_blocker);
+    bdrv_op_unblock(backing_hd, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_TARGET,
+                    bs->backing_blocker);
 out:
     bdrv_refresh_limits(bs, NULL);
 }



> 
> Stefan
> .
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-27  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25  6:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 00/10] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 01/10] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 19:07   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-30  5:49     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 02/10] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 19:09   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-12 13:45   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:13     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-14 14:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 03/10] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 04/10] block: make bdrv_put_ref_bh_schedule() as a public API Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 05/10] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 06/10] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 07/10] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 08/10] Implement new driver " Wen Congyang
2015-10-12 16:25   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  8:59     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-13  9:41       ` Fam Zheng
2015-10-13  9:46         ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-13 10:12           ` Fam Zheng
2015-10-14  0:55             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-12 16:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:08     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-14 14:27       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-15  2:19         ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-15 14:55           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-16  0:52             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-16  2:22             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-16 11:37               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-27  2:57                 ` Wen Congyang [this message]
2015-10-27 14:41                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-12 16:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:09     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 09/10] support replication driver in blockdev-add Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 14:40   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 10/10] Add a new API to start/stop replication, do checkpoint to all BDSes Wen Congyang
2015-10-07  6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 00/10] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 12:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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