From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio-gpu doesn't build if you do a linux-headers update from kvm/next
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 18:09:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <563B8D59.1040008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <563B8C4A.70307@redhat.com>
On 05/11/2015 18:05, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>> > Surely the kernel uapi includes is that textual format. Once stuff is
>> > accepted into the master kernel tree there is your stable API.
> What is uapi for? If it is for QEMU (the userspace process) to consume
> the host kernel's services, then I agree.
uapi = Userspace API.
> If uapi is for the guest kernel to consume (= drive) QEMU's virtual
> hardware, then I strongly disagree. In that case Linux is just one of
> the possible guests that can drive that hardware.
Kernel-only headers can and will include uapi headers, though not the
other way round. So there can be indeed a case where a typo in uapi
headers causes both QEMU and the guest kernel to deviate from the spec.
> (Side point: and QEMU is just one of the emulators / hypervisors that
> can provide that hardware. Which is why the actual hardware description
> should exist independently of both.)
Typically it exists as an industry standard (e.g. the virtio
specification) or a datasheet.
Paolo
> I'll elaborate elsewhere in the thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-05 17:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-05 11:42 [Qemu-devel] virtio-gpu doesn't build if you do a linux-headers update from kvm/next Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 11:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-05 12:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-05 12:32 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 13:23 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-11-05 13:44 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 13:46 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-11-05 14:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-05 14:30 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 14:52 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 15:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-05 14:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-05 18:56 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 13:48 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-05 15:52 ` Alex Bennée
2015-11-05 17:05 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-05 17:09 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-11-05 14:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-05 14:45 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 14:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-11-05 15:11 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-05 17:15 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-05 18:13 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-11-05 18:51 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-06 16:34 ` Alex Bennée
2015-11-06 16:43 ` Peter Maydell
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