From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0Nzx-0001BN-Ho for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:25:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C0Nzu-0001AK-2M for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:25:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C0Nzt-00019c-Uc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:25:14 -0400 Received: from [64.233.170.194] (helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0NuK-0000Dh-3Z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:19:28 -0400 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v18so221542rnb for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <564021330408261019668a33d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:19:27 -0500 From: Mike Tremoulet Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] pcap-based networking? In-Reply-To: <1093540521.3851.898.camel@aragorn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5640213304082609425986326c@mail.gmail.com> <1093540521.3851.898.camel@aragorn> Reply-To: Mike Tremoulet , qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:15:21 -0700, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > Just to clarify, TUN/TAP and user mode serve different ends. > > User mode is zero-configuration, and does not require administrative > rights to set it up. The slirp code code be improved in many ways, and > the strategy has inherenent limitations, but as I said it has clear > advantages. > > Any alternative for the slirp solution would have to meet the > zero-config, no admin rights test. > > TUN/TAP is just a packet forwarding/tunnel solution, just like what you > are describing. It is harder to set up than user mode networking, you > need admin rights, but it is faster and certainly more flexible than > user mode. It seems to me you are describing an alternative to TUN/TAP > not user mode networing. > True. That's a better way to say it - can I have a TUN/TAP alternative that runs on Windows? It wouldn't be zero-config, but the config could be minimal - install a TAP adapter, enable Internet Connection Sharing, and point QEMU at the TAP interface. Thanks for the clarification, -- Mike