From: Tkid <zhangchen.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com
Cc: zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com, lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com,
jan.kiszka@siemens.com, eddie.dong@intel.com,
dgilbert@redhat.com, peter.huangpeng@huawei.com,
arei.gonglei@huawei.com, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [POC]colo-proxy in qemu
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:35:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5641BA61.8060202@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56419E37.3010909@redhat.com>
On 11/10/2015 03:35 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> On 11/10/2015 01:26 PM, Tkid wrote:
>> Hi,all
>>
>> We are planning to reimplement colo proxy in userspace (Here is in
>> qemu) to
>> cache and compare net packets.This module is one of the important
>> components
>> of COLO project and now it is still in early stage, so any comments and
>> feedback are warmly welcomed,thanks in advance.
>>
>> ## Background
>> COLO FT/HA (COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop
>> Service)
>> project is a high availability solution. Both Primary VM (PVM) and
>> Secondary VM
>> (SVM) run in parallel. They receive the same request from client, and
>> generate
>> responses in parallel too. If the response packets from PVM and SVM are
>> identical, they are released immediately. Otherwise, a VM checkpoint
>> (on demand)
>> is conducted.
>> Paper:
>> http://www.socc2013.org/home/program/a3-dong.pdf?attredirects=0
>> COLO on Xen:
>> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/COLO_-_Coarse_Grain_Lock_Stepping
>> COLO on Qemu/KVM:
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/COLO
>>
>> By the needs of capturing response packets from PVM and SVM and
>> finding out
>> whether they are identical, we introduce a new module to qemu
>> networking called
>> colo-proxy.
>>
>> This document describes the design of the colo-proxy module
>>
>> ## Glossary
>> PVM - Primary VM, which provides services to clients.
>> SVM - Secondary VM, a hot standby and replication of PVM.
>> PN - Primary Node, the host which PVM runs on
>> SN - Secondary Node, the host which SVM runs on
>>
>> ## Our Idea ##
>>
>> COLO-Proxy
>> COLO-Proxy is a part of COLO,based on qemu net filter and it's a
>> plugin for
>> qemu net filter.the function keep SVM connect normal to PVM and compare
>> PVM's packets to SVM's packets.if difference,notify COLO do checkpoint.
>>
>> == Workflow ==
>>
>> +--+ +--+
>> |PN| |SN|
>> +-----------------------+ +-----------------------+
>> | +-------------------+ | | +-------------------+ |
>> | | | | | | | |
>> | | PVM | | | | SVM | |
>> | | | | | | | |
>> | +--+-^--------------+ | | +-------------^----++ |
>> | | | | | | | |
>> | | | +------------+ | | +-----------+ | | |
>> | | | | COLO | | (socket) | | COLO | | | |
>> | | | | CheckPoint +---------------------> CheckPoint| | | |
>> | | | | | | (6) | | | | | |
>> | | | +-----^------+ | | +-----------+ | | |
>> | | | (5) | | | | | |
>> | | | | | | | | |
>> | +--v-+--------------+ | Forward(socket) | +-------------+----v+ |
>> | |COLO Proxy | +-------+(1)+--------->seq&ack adjust(2)| | |
>> | | +-----+------+ | | +-----------------+ | |
>> | | | Compare(4) <-------+(3)+---------+ COLO Proxy | |
>> | +-------------------+ | Forward(socket) | +-------------------+ |
>> ++Qemu+-----------------+ ++Qemu+-----------------+
>> | ^
>> | |
>> | |
>> +--------v-+--------+
>> | |
>> | Client |
>> | |
>> +-------------------+
>>
>>
>> (1)When PN receive client packets,PN COLO-Proxy copy and forward
>> packets to
>> SN COLO-Proxy.
>> (2)SN COLO-Proxy record PVM's packet inital seq & adjust client's ack,send
>> adjusted packets to SVM
>> (3)SN Qemu COLO-Proxy recieve SVM's packets and forward to PN Qemu
>> COLO-Proxy.
>> (4)PN Qemu COLO-Proxy enqueue SVM's packets and enqueue PVM's packets,then
>> compare PVM's packets data with SVM's packets data. If packets is
>> different, compare
>> module notify COLO CheckPoint module to do a checkpoint then send
>> PVM's packets to
>> client and drop SVM's packets, otherwise, just send PVM's packets to
>> client and
>> drop SVM's packets.
>> (5)notify COLO-Checkpoint module checkpoint is needed
>> (6)Do COLO-Checkpoint
>>
>> ### QEMU space TCP/IP stack(Based on SLIRP) ###
>> We need a QEMU space TCP/IP stack to help us to analysis packet. After
>> looking
>> into QEMU, we found that SLIRP
>>
>> http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking#User_Networking_.28SLIRP.29
>>
>> is a good choice for us. SLIRP proivdes a full TCP/IP stack within
>> QEMU, it can
>> help use to handle the packet written to/read from backend(tap) device
>> which is
>> just like a link layer(L2) packet.
>>
>> ### Packet enqueue and compare ###
>> Together with QEMU space TCP/IP stack, we enqueue all packets sent by
>> PVM and
>> SVM on Primary QEMU, and then compare the packet payload for each
>> connection.
>>
Thanks for review ~
> Hi:
>
> Just have the following questions in my mind (some has been raised in
> the previous rounds of discussion without a conclusion):
>
> - What's the plan for management layer? The setup seems complicated so
> we could not simply depend on user to do each step. (And for security
> reason, qemu was usually run as unprivileged user)
-We don't need to run as privileged user, colo-proxy just run like
filter-buffer. usage: primary: -netdev tap,id=bn0 -device
e1000,netdev=bn0 -object
colo-proxy,id=f0,netdev=bn0,queue=all,side=primary,host=3.3.3.8,port=xxx
secondary: -netdev tap,id=bn0 -device e1000,netdev=bn0 -object
colo-proxy,id=f0,netdev=bn0,queue=all,side=secondary,server=tcp:xxxx:port
> - What's the plan for vhost? Userspace network in qemu is rather slow,
> most user will choose vhost.
colo-proxy in qemu space don't support vhost. people who want to use
colo must disable vhost, but virtio-net is another choice which is
enough in most case.
> - What if application generate packet based on hwrng device? This will
> produce always different packets.
just like hailiang said.
> - Not sure SLIRP is perfect matched for this task. As has been raised,
> another method is to decouple the packet comparing from qemu. In this
> way, lots of open source userspace stack could be used.
-we just need the some capabilities(such as IP frag/defrag) of SLIRP。
We have investigated some open source userspace stack,but not find one
better to SLIRP. if you know,please tell me.
> - Haven't read the code of packet comparing, but if it needs to keep
> track the state of each connection, it could be easily DOS from guest.
-We think preventDOS from guest is out of our focus,it should be firewall to concerned.
> Thanks
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-10 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-10 5:26 [Qemu-devel] [POC]colo-proxy in qemu Tkid
2015-11-10 7:35 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10 8:30 ` zhanghailiang
2015-11-11 2:28 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10 9:35 ` Tkid [this message]
2015-11-11 3:04 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10 9:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11 3:09 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-11 9:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11 1:23 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-11-11 3:26 ` Jason Wang
2015-11-10 10:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-11 2:46 ` Zhang Chen
2015-11-13 12:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-20 6:42 [Qemu-devel] [POC] colo-proxy " Li Zhijian
2015-07-20 10:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-20 11:55 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-20 13:12 ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-07-20 15:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-21 1:59 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-28 22:13 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-21 6:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-21 9:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-27 10:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-07-27 11:24 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-27 11:31 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-27 13:33 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-28 22:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2015-07-29 7:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-07-20 12:02 ` Li Zhijian
2015-07-24 2:04 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-24 2:12 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-24 8:04 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 3:24 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27 3:54 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 4:49 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27 5:51 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 7:37 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27 7:49 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 8:06 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27 8:22 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 7:53 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-27 8:17 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-27 18:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-27 10:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-27 13:39 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-24 2:05 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-30 4:23 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30 7:16 ` Gonglei
2015-07-30 7:47 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-07-30 8:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 8:15 ` Jason Wang
2015-07-30 11:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 12:10 ` Gonglei
2015-07-30 12:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 12:42 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-30 13:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-30 15:17 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-30 17:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-07-31 1:08 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-31 1:28 ` zhanghailiang
2015-07-31 1:31 ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-31 1:26 ` zhanghailiang
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