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From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.5 v5 0/11] dataplane snapshot fixes
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 15:55:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5641E92A.7070806@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56410AAB.3010802@redhat.com>

On 11/10/2015 12:05 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 11/06/2015 02:13 PM, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
>
>>> That is a case of using libvirt to trigger internal snapshots...
>>>
>>>> The HMP monitor is legacy and also not used by modern libvirt.
>>> ...and libvirt is forced to use HMP for internal snapshots, since we
>>> _still_ haven't exposed internal snapshots as a QMP command.
>> Eric,
>>
>> by the way, there is a user visible bug with this too :))))))
>>
>> EFI based VM with pflash storage for NVRAM could not
>> be snapshoted as libvirt configures storage as 'raw'.
>> OK, this is a libvirt bug. The patch will be sent next
>> week or in a week by my colleague switching storage
>> type from 'raw' to 'qcow2'.
> Not necessarily a bug in libvirt, so much as a limitation that the
> current qemu implementation of internal snapshots requires qcow2 for all
> storage devices (even though it might not be technically necessary, if
> there were an easy way to snapshot state of one non-qcow2 storage
> alongside the rest of the machine state stored elsewhere).  But a
> libvirt patch would certainly be useful.
>
>> For a QEMU this results in the following:
>> - QEMU receives command via HMP to make a snapshot
>> - it fails, but QEMU does not see that fact (error code
>>    is not delivered to libvirt in HMP AFAIK)
> Libvirt is still using QMP to deliver the HMP command (via the QMP
> human-monitor-command); if I'm understanding your complaint correctly,
> you are saying that qemu doesn't do error reporting correctly for that?
> If so, fix that in qemu, although libvirt should also be able to work
> around it when dealing with broken qemu.
>
>> - on request to switch to snapshot the commands
>>    just do nothing and from the point of libvirt the command
>>    was successful
>>
>> We should have these commands even in the simple
>> rudimentary current non-ideal form even just as wrappers
>> around HMP functions.
>>
>> Do you have an opinion about importance of the last
>> issue? Should it be considered for 2.6?
> We've gone since 0.14 without anyone writing the remaining few QMP
> commands to completely obsolete the need for human-monitor-command
> backdoors into HMP.  Volunteers are welcome to submit code to complete
> the conversion, but the length of time it has taken so far may be an
> indication that it is not as easy as you think.
>
I have one for snapshot operations :)

Den

      reply	other threads:[~2015-11-10 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-04 17:19 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.5 v5 0/11] dataplane snapshot fixes Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] snapshot: create helper to test that block drivers supports snapshots Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-05  6:26   ` Greg Kurz
2015-11-05  7:58     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 13:53     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] snapshot: return error code from bdrv_snapshot_delete_by_id_or_name Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-05  7:55   ` Greg Kurz
2015-11-05  8:02     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] snapshot: create bdrv_all_delete_snapshot helper Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 14:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-06 14:12     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-07 12:22     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] snapshot: create bdrv_all_goto_snapshot helper Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-05  9:09   ` Greg Kurz
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] snapshot: create bdrv_all_find_snapshot helper Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] migration: drop find_vmstate_bs check in hmp_delvm Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] migration: reorder processing in hmp_savevm Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] migration: implement bdrv_all_find_vmstate_bs and bdrv_unlock helpers Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 15:18   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-06 15:23     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] migration: add missed aio_context_acquire for state writing/reading Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 15:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] snapshot: create bdrv_all_create_snapshot helper Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-04 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] monitor: add missed aio_context_acquire into vm_completion call Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 15:40   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-06 15:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.5 v5 0/11] dataplane snapshot fixes Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-06 16:05   ` Eric Blake
2015-11-06 16:19     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-06 17:29       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-06 21:13     ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-11-09 21:05       ` Eric Blake
2015-11-10 12:55         ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]

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