From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 2.5] QEMU does not care about left shifts of signed negative values
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:28:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564B0150.7030400@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_icu1TKwtxUHmJa6wtVNWRd6=+UxOa-g6VpZ66LdLVsA@mail.gmail.com>
On 17/11/2015 11:19, Peter Maydell wrote:
> I think we should only take this patch if you can get a cast-iron
> guarantee from both clang and gcc that they will never use this
> UB to drive optimizations. As you say gcc already say this more or
> less, but clang doesn't, and if they're warning about it that to
> me suggests that they will feel freer to rely on the UB in future.
If and when this happens we will add "-fno-strict-overflow" for clang,
just like we are using "-fno-strict-aliasing" already.
> GCC is not our only supported compiler; UB is a real thing that
> compilers in general take advantage of; we should be trying to
> reduce our reliance on UB, not carving out extra areas where we
> feel free to use it.
We are already feeling free to use it.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-17 10:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-17 9:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 2.5] QEMU does not care about left shifts of signed negative values Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 10:19 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 10:28 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-11-17 10:36 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 10:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 10:42 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 10:55 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 10:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 11:22 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 12:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 12:22 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 10:41 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-17 10:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 10:52 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-17 11:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-17 12:04 ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-17 12:17 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-17 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-17 12:18 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-17 10:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-17 10:36 ` Laszlo Ersek
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