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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mm: Loosen MADV_NOHUGEPAGE to enable Qemu postcopy on s390
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:31:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <564D96F8.2020609@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564D86AE.1010305@de.ibm.com>

On 11/19/2015 09:22 AM, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> On 11/18/2015 02:31 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> [CC += linux-api@vger.kernel.org]
>> Anyway, I agree that it doesn't make sense to fail madvise when the given flag
>> is already set. On the other hand, I don't think the userspace app should fail
>> just because of madvise failing? It should in general be an advice that the
>> kernel is also strictly speaking free to ignore as it shouldn't affect
>> correctnes, just performance. Yeah, there are exceptions today like
>> MADV_DONTNEED, but that shouldn't apply to hugepages?
>> So I think Qemu needs fixing too.
>
> yes, I agree. David, Juan. I think The postcopy code should not fail if the madvise.
> Can you fix that?
>
>   Also what happens if the kernel is build
>> without CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE? Then madvise also returns EINVAL,
>
> Does it? To me it looks more like we would trigger a kernel bug.
>
> mm/madvise.c:
>          case MADV_HUGEPAGE:
>          case MADV_NOHUGEPAGE:
>                  error = hugepage_madvise(vma, &new_flags, behavior);  <-----
>                  if (error)
>                          goto out;
>                  break;
>          }
>
>
> include/linux/huge_mm.h:
> static inline int hugepage_madvise(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>                                     unsigned long *vm_flags, int advice)
> {
>          BUG();
>          return 0;
> }
>
> If we just remove the BUG() statement the code would actually be correct
> in simply ignoring an MADVISE it cannot handle. If you agree, I can
> spin a patch.

Yeah this looks suspicious at first, but the code is not reachable 
thanks to madvise_behavior_valid() returning false:

...
#ifdef CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
         case MADV_HUGEPAGE:
         case MADV_NOHUGEPAGE:
#endif
         case MADV_DONTDUMP:
         case MADV_DODUMP:
                 return true;

         default:
                 return false;

I think the BUG() is pointless (KSM doesn't use it) but not wrong. I 
wouldn't object to removal.

>
>
>> how does Qemu handle that?
>
> The normal qemu startup ignores the return value of the madvise. Only the
> recent post migration changes want to disable huge pages for userfaultd.
> And this code checks the return value. And yes, we should change that
> in QEMU.

Great, thanks :)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-19  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <564C7DCA.8010400@suse.cz>
2015-11-19  8:22   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mm: Loosen MADV_NOHUGEPAGE to enable Qemu postcopy on s390 Christian Borntraeger
2015-11-19  9:31     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-11-19  9:43     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-19 13:10     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-19 14:30       ` Jason J. Herne

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