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From: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 19:19:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56680E33.6040204@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151209122831-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On 12/9/2015 6:37 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 12:32:00AM +0800, Lan, Tianyu wrote:
>> Hi Michael & Alexander:
>> Thanks a lot for your comments and suggestions.
>
> It's nice that it's appreciated, but you then go on and ignore
> all that I have written here:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg123826.html
>

No, I will reply it separately and according your suggestion to snip it 
into 3 thread.

>> We still need to support Windows guest for migration and this is why our
>> patches keep all changes in the driver since it's impossible to change
>> Windows kernel.
>
> This is not a reasonable argument.  It makes no sense to duplicate code
> on Linux because you must duplicate code on Windows.  Let's assume you
> must do it in the driver on windows because windows has closed source
> drivers.  What does it matter? Linux can still do it as part of DMA API
> and have it apply to all drivers.
>

Sure. Duplicated code should be encapsulated and make it able to reuse
by other drivers. Just like you said the dummy write part.

I meant the framework should not require to change Windows kernel code
(such as PM core or PCI bus driver)and this will block implementation on
the Windows.

I think it's not problem to duplicate code in the Windows drivers.

>> Following is my idea to do DMA tracking.
>>
>> Inject event to VF driver after memory iterate stage
>> and before stop VCPU and then VF driver marks dirty all
>> using DMA memory. The new allocated pages also need to
>> be marked dirty before stopping VCPU. All dirty memory
>> in this time slot will be migrated until stop-and-copy
>> stage. We also need to make sure to disable VF via clearing the
>> bus master enable bit for VF before migrating these memory.
>>
>> The dma page allocated by VF driver also needs to reserve space
>> to do dummy write.
>
> I suggested ways to do it all in the hypervisor without driver hacks, or
> hide it within DMA API without need to reserve extra space. Both
> approaches seem much cleaner.
>

This sounds reasonable. We may discuss it detail in the separate thread.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-09 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24 13:38 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 1/3] VFIO: Add new ioctl cmd VFIO_GET_PCI_CAP_INFO Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 2/3] PCI: Add macros for faked PCI migration capability Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 3/3] Ixgbevf: Add migration support for ixgbevf driver Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 21:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25  5:39     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25  5:39     ` Lan Tianyu
2015-11-25 12:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 16:02         ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-25 16:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 16:24           ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25 16:39             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 17:24               ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-24 14:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25  3:18   ` Lan Tianyu
2015-11-25  5:30     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25  8:21       ` Lan Tianyu
2015-11-25 15:32         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-26  3:15           ` Dong, Eddie
2015-11-26  3:56             ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-30  6:53               ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-30 16:07                 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-01 15:04                   ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-01 15:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 17:04                       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-01 17:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 18:36                           ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-02 11:44                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-04 16:32                               ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 17:07                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 15:40                                   ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-07 17:12                                     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 17:39                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-07 18:42                                         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-09  9:28                                       ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 16:36                                         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-09 10:37                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-09 11:19                                   ` Lan, Tianyu [this message]
2015-12-09 11:28                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-09 11:41                                       ` Lan, Tianyu

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