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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 0/3] block: Add meta dirty bitmap for migration/persistence
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 14:46:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5668147C.5060702@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151208014256.GD7567@ad.usersys.redhat.com>

On 08.12.2015 04:42, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Mon, 12/07 17:19, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> On 07.12.2015 08:59, Fam Zheng wrote:
>>> Vladimir,
>>>
>>> This is what I propose to implement meta bitmap. It's implemented in the
>>> HBitmap level to be more efficient, and the interface slightly varies too.
>> What is the benefit?
>>
>> Hbitmap usage:
>>
>> 1) BdrvDirtyBitmap - need meta
>> 2) BackupBlockJob - doesn't need meta
>> 3) BlockDirtyBitmapState - doesn't need meta
>> 4) now I'm working on series for parallels format and I use HBitmap
>> to mark allocated/free clusters.. - doesn't need meta
>> 5) your meta hbitmap =) - doesn't need meta..
> 6) persistence dirty bitmap. - need meta

Your (6) is my (1)


>
>> So, what is the benefit of moving this functionality to parent
>> class? (Which is complicated without it)..
> See my reply to John's comment on the cover letter. This is more efficient than
> doing it in BdrvDirtyBitmap.
>
>> However, I'm not really against, except my comment to the first patch.
>>
>> PS:
>> Actually I don't like HBitmap - BdrvDirtyBitmap..
>> - No implementation without granularity
>>         I need HBitmap without granularity for my needs and have to
>> use granularity=0. If there was HBitmap without granularity some
>> operations can be faster - for example, finding next/previous/last
>> zeros, jumping by words not by bits..
>> - It is not sparse. Empty bitmap occupies lots of ram.
>> - different granularity units for HBitmap and BdrvDirtyBitmap
>> - different layers with/without granularity in hbitmap.c
>> - HBitmap with non-zero granularity doesn't know its size (only
>> rounded up to granularity)
>> - necessity of writing wrappers like
>>     bdrv_dirty_bitmap_do_something(...)
>>     {
>>          hbitmap_do_something(...)
>>     }
>>     -- Yes, I understand that this is inevitably, but I just don't like it..
>> - BdrvDirtyBitmap is defined in block.c.. I think, it should have
>> its own .c file.
> Yes, I agree we should cut it out during 2.6, with a separate header.
>


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir
* now, @virtuozzo.com instead of @parallels.com. Sorry for this inconvenience.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-09 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-07  5:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 0/3] block: Add meta dirty bitmap for migration/persistence Fam Zheng
2015-12-07  5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 1/3] HBitmap: Introduce "meta" bitmap to track bit changes Fam Zheng
2015-12-07 13:32   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-12-08  1:31     ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-09 11:51       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-12-30 10:53   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-12-30 11:07     ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-30 11:26       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-21 10:58       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-22  3:10         ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-07  5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 2/3] tests: Add test code for meta bitmap Fam Zheng
2015-12-07  5:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 3/3] block: Support meta dirty bitmap Fam Zheng
2015-12-07 14:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC for-2.6 0/3] block: Add meta dirty bitmap for migration/persistence Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-12-08  1:42   ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-09 11:46     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2015-12-07 23:47 ` John Snow
2015-12-08  1:36   ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-09 11:57     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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