From: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] block: added lock image option and callback
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:12:10 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <569614EA.2020608@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pox5oo8f.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On 01/13/2016 11:52 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Am 11.01.2016 um 18:58 hat Daniel P. Berrange geschrieben:
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 06:31:06PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>> Am 23.12.2015 um 08:46 hat Denis V. Lunev geschrieben:
>>>>> From: Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> While opening the image we want to be sure that we are the
>>>>> one who works with image, anf if it is not true -
>>>>> opening the image for writing should fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are 2 ways at the moment: no lock at all and lock the file
>>>>> image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
>>>>> CC: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
>>>>> CC: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>>>>> CC: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
>>>>> CC: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
>>>> As long as locking is disabled by default, it's useless and won't
>>>> prevent people from corrupting their images. These corruptions happen
>>>> exactly because people don't know how to use qemu properly. You can't
>>>> expect them to enable locking manually.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you probably need to consider bdrv_reopen() and live migration.
>>>> I think live migration would be blocked if source and destination both
>>>> see the lock; which is admittedly less likely than with the qcow2 patch
>>>> (and generally a problem of this series), but with localhost migration
>>>> and potentially with some NFS setups it can be the case.
>>> Note that when libvirt does locking it will release locks when a VM
>>> is paused, and acquire locks prior to resuming CPUs. This allows live
>>> migration to work because you never have CPUs running on both src + dst
>>> at the same time. This does mean that libvirt does not allow QEMU to
>>> automatically re-start CPUs when migration completes, as it needs to
>>> take some action to acquire locks before allowing the dst to start
>>> running again.
>> This assumes that block devices can only be written to if CPUs are
>> running. In the days of qemu 0.9, this was probably right, but with
>> things like block jobs and built-in NBD servers, I wouldn't be as sure
>> these days.
> Sounds like QEMU and libvirt should cooperate more closely to get the
> locking less wrong.
>
> QEMU should have more accurate knowledge on how it is using the image.
> Libvirt may be able to provide better locks, with the help of its
> virtlockd daemon.
daemon owning locks is a problem:
- there are distributed cases
- daemons restart from time to time
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-13 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-22 16:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement image locking Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qcow2: Write feature table only for v3 images Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:20 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qcow2: Write full header on image creation Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:25 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] block: Assert no write requests under BDRV_O_INCOMING Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:27 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] block: Fix error path in bdrv_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:31 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] block: Inactivate BDS when migration completes Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:43 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-05 20:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2016-01-13 14:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13 16:35 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] qemu-img: Prepare for locked images Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-22 17:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:06 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-11 16:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 15:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-12 17:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13 8:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13 14:19 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-14 13:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-14 14:19 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 16:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:41 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] qcow2: Implement .bdrv_inactivate Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:17 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qcow2: Fix BDRV_O_INCOMING handling in qcow2_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:22 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] qcow2: Make image inaccessible after failed qcow2_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:24 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qcow2: Add image locking Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 22:04 ` Eric Blake
2015-12-23 3:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement " Fam Zheng
2015-12-23 7:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] generic image locking and crash recovery Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] block: added lock image option and callback Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 23:48 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 17:31 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-11 18:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13 8:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13 9:12 ` Denis V. Lunev [this message]
2016-01-13 9:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13 9:51 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-12 5:38 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-12 10:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 11:33 ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 12:24 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-12 12:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 13:17 ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 13:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13 0:08 ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 15:59 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-13 0:10 ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-13 16:44 ` Eric Blake
2016-01-14 7:23 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] block: implemented bdrv_lock_image for raw file Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:40 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] block: added check image option and callback bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 9:09 ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-23 9:14 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] qcow2: implemented bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-11 17:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-23 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] block/paralels: added paralles implementation for bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 8:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] generic image locking and crash recovery Fam Zheng
2015-12-23 8:36 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 10:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement image locking Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Roman Kagan
2015-12-23 12:29 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:41 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:46 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:34 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:47 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-11 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13 8:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 23:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Max Reitz
2015-12-24 5:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-24 5:42 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-04 17:02 ` Max Reitz
2016-01-11 16:47 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 14:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-12-23 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 15:11 ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2016-01-11 16:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-23 15:09 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-24 5:43 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-11 16:33 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 16:38 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-14 14:01 ` Max Reitz
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