From: Hailiang Zhang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Yang Hongyang <hongyang.yang@easystack.cn>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: peter.huangpeng@huawei.com, zhangchen.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] net/filter: Introduce a helper to add a filter to the netdev
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:41:48 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56AF366C.8090504@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AF2A28.7020104@redhat.com>
On 2016/2/1 17:49, Jason Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 02/01/2016 05:39 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote:
>> On 2016/2/1 17:18, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/01/2016 04:21 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead of this, I wonder maybe it's better to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - store the default filter property into a pointer to string
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean, pass a string parameter which stores the filter
>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>> assemble it in this helper ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. E.g just a global string which could be changed by any
>>>>>>> subsystem.
>>>>>>> E.g colo may change it to
>>>>>>> "filter-buffer,interval=0,status=disable". But
>>>>>>> filter ids need to be generated automatically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got it. Then we don't need the global default_netfilter_type[] in
>>>>>> patch 5,
>>>>>> Just use this global string instead ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - colo code may change the pointer to
>>>>>>>>> "filter-buffer,status=disable"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then, there's no need for lots of codes above:
>>>>>>>>> - no need a "is_default" parameter in netdev_add_filter which
>>>>>>>>> does not
>>>>>>>>> scale consider we may want to have more property in the future
>>>>>>>>> - no need to hacking like "qemu_filter_opts"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, we can use qemu_find_opts("object") instead of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - no need to have a special flag like "is_default"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But we have to distinguish the default filter from the common
>>>>>>>> filter, use the name (id) to distinguish it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the reason that you want to distinguish default filters from
>>>>>>> others?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The default filters will be used by COLO or MC, (In COLO, we will
>>>>>> use it
>>>>>> to control packets buffering/releasing).
>>>>>> For COLO, we don't want to control (use) other filters that added by
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Jason's point is that COLO is a manager, you can add the
>>>>> filter
>>>>> to netdev when doing COLO, so the only difference between COLO's
>>>>> default
>>>>
>>>> Er, then we came back to the original question, 'is it necessary to
>>>> add each netdev
>>>> a default filter ?'
>>>
>>> The question could be extended to:
>>>
>>> 1) Do we need a default filter? I think the answer is yes, but of course
>>> COLO can work even without this.
>>
>> Yes, after colo-proxy is realized, we can switch to colo-proxy
>> (It should have the capability of buffer and release packets directly).
>> But for now, we want to merge COLO prototype without colo-proxy, the COLO
>> prototype should have the basic capability.
>
> Right, I see.
>
>> Just like Remus or
>> Micro-checkpointing. It is based on the default buffer-filter to
>> control net
>> packets.
>>
>>> 2) Do we want to implement COLO on top of default filter? If yes, as you
>>> suggest, we may record the ids of the default filter and do what ever we
>>
>> Yes, we need it.
>
> Or just as I reply, all buffer filters (with zero interval) could be
> tracked by itself. So as you see, several ways could go. It's your call
> to choose one of them.
>
OK, got it.
>>
>>> what. If not, COLO need codes to go through each netdev and add filter
>>> itself (hotplug is not supported). Or you want management to do this,
>>> then even hotplug could be supported.
>>>
>>
>> We also want to support hotplug during VM is in COLO state in the future.
>> (For this point, I'm not quite sure if this usage case is really exist.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hailiang
>
> Support hotplug should be useful I think. But I'm also ok if you don't
> want to consider for it now.
>
Thanks very much.
Hailiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-01 10:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-27 8:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] Netfilter: Add each netdev a default filter zhanghailiang
2016-01-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] net/filter: Add a 'status' property for filter object zhanghailiang
2016-01-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] vl: Make object_create() public zhanghailiang
2016-02-01 3:05 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 6:19 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 7:27 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 7:34 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 10:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-01 10:44 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-01-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] net/filter: Introduce a helper to add a filter to the netdev zhanghailiang
2016-02-01 3:14 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 6:13 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 7:46 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 7:56 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 8:05 ` Yang Hongyang
2016-02-01 8:21 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 9:18 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 9:39 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 9:49 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 10:41 ` Hailiang Zhang [this message]
2016-02-01 9:04 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 9:22 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 9:42 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-01 10:40 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-05 6:19 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-05 7:01 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-05 7:40 ` Jason Wang
2016-02-05 8:29 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 12:21 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-02-01 10:43 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-01 10:57 ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-01-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] filter-buffer: Accept zero interval zhanghailiang
2016-01-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] net/filter: Add a default filter to each netdev zhanghailiang
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