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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, den@virtuozzo.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] external backup api
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 14:24:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B1E383.90100@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203110243.GA18776@ad.usersys.redhat.com>

On 03.02.2016 14:02, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Wed, 02/03 13:57, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> On 03.02.2016 11:14, Fam Zheng wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01/30 13:56, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> These series which aims to add external backup api. This is needed to allow
>>>> backup software use our dirty bitmaps.
>>>>
>>>> Vmware and Parallels Cloud Server have this feature.
>>> What is the advantage of this appraoch over "drive-backup sync=incremental
>>> ..."?
>> Hmm, you are asking about advantage of external backup over
>> internal? It depends on external backup tool.
> I'm asking why the tool can't use drive-backup to achieve what you want. They
> seem very comparable.

drive-backup has limited range of maintained by qemu targets.. Third 
party tool uses its own internal targets. If we use drvie-backup there 
will be two copies instead of one: from qemu to drive-backup produced 
backup and then to internal target in third-party tool.

>
> Fam
>
>>>> There are three things are done:
>>>> - add query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges qmp command
>>>> - add qmp commands for dirty-bitmap functions: create_successor, abdicate,
>>>>    reclaim.
>>>> - make create-successor command transaction-able
>>>>
>>>> Then, external backup should be done like this:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  qmp transaction {
>>>>          external-snapshot
>>>>          bitmap-create-successor
>>>>      }
>>>>
>>>> 2.  qmp query frozen bitmap, not acquiring aio context.
>>> What do you do with the query response, read the snapshot image with an
>>> external tool?
>> Yes. Alternatively, image fleecing may be used instead of snapshot.
>>
>>> Fam
>>>
>>>> 3.  do external backup, using snapshot and bitmap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.  if (success backup)
>>>>          qmp bitmap-abdicate
>>>>      else
>>>>          qmp bitmap-reclaime
>>>>
>>>> 5.  qmp merge snapshot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> v2: a lot of additions and changes, no sense to compare with v1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy (6):
>>>>    block dirty bitmap: add next_zero function
>>>>    qmp: add query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges
>>>>    iotests: test query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges
>>>>    qapi: add qmp commands for some dirty bitmap functions
>>>>    qapi: make block-dirty-bitmap-create-successor transaction-able
>>>>    iotests: test external backup api
>>>>
>>>>   block/dirty-bitmap.c         |  60 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   blockdev.c                   | 113 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   include/block/dirty-bitmap.h |   9 ++++
>>>>   include/qemu/hbitmap.h       |   8 +++
>>>>   qapi-schema.json             |   4 +-
>>>>   qapi/block-core.json         |  90 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   qmp-commands.hx              | 118 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   tests/qemu-iotests/150       |  88 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   tests/qemu-iotests/150.out   |  21 ++++++++
>>>>   tests/qemu-iotests/151       |  77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   tests/qemu-iotests/151.out   |   7 +++
>>>>   tests/qemu-iotests/group     |   2 +
>>>>   util/hbitmap.c               |  26 ++++++++++
>>>>   13 files changed, 622 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>   create mode 100755 tests/qemu-iotests/150
>>>>   create mode 100644 tests/qemu-iotests/150.out
>>>>   create mode 100755 tests/qemu-iotests/151
>>>>   create mode 100644 tests/qemu-iotests/151.out
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> 1.8.3.1
>>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Vladimir
>>


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-30 10:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] external backup api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] block dirty bitmap: add next_zero function Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qmp: add query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-10 10:08   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-10 13:57     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 15:26       ` John Snow
2016-02-10 15:36         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 15:37           ` John Snow
2016-02-10 15:40             ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-14  5:05       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] iotests: test query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] qapi: add qmp commands for some dirty bitmap functions Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] qapi: make block-dirty-bitmap-create-successor transaction-able Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] iotests: test external backup api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-03  8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] " Fam Zheng
2016-02-03 10:57   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-03 11:02     ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-03 11:24       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2016-02-05  8:28   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-05  8:44     ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-09 14:21     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-09 14:37       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 16:49         ` John Snow
2016-02-09 16:58           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 18:12             ` John Snow
2016-02-09 19:25               ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10  8:04                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 14:28     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-09 14:41       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 10:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-16 17:09           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-16 17:17             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-16 17:20             ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-18 16:39               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-18 17:07                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-17 17:47             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-18  0:59               ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-18 12:11               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-18 16:41                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-19  2:08                   ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-19  8:51                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-24 23:34                       ` John Snow
2016-02-26 19:55                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-26 20:03                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-26 20:29                           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-26 21:37                           ` John Snow
2016-02-26 20:40                         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-27  4:26                           ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-29  8:14                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-29  8:54                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-29  9:42                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-29 10:05                               ` Fam Zheng
2016-03-10 17:37                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-10 17:40                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-14 16:27                                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-29 10:22                           ` Markus Armbruster

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