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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>, Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: "nbd-general@lists.sourceforge.net"
	<nbd-general@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Pavel Borzenkov <pborzenkov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Stefan stefanha@redhat. com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] [PATCH v2] doc: Add NBD_CMD_BLOCK_STATUS extension
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:17:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5702D9FA.20207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5702D6E2.1090901@openvz.org>

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On 04/04/2016 03:04 PM, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> In v1 we have had 'status' field, which can have the
> following values for dirty request:
> 
> +      - `NBD_STATE_DIRTY` (0x0), LBA extent is dirty;
> +      - `NBD_STATE_CLEAN` (0x1), LBA extent is clean.
> 
> in the extent structure:
> 
> +        * 64 bits, offset (unsigned)
> +        * 32 bits, length (unsigned)
> +        * 16 bits, status (unsigned)

Between v1 and v2, we dropped 64-bit offset (offset is now implied, by
adding lengths of all earlier descriptors), and widened status from 16
bits to 32 bits (so that each descriptor is now naturally 8-byte aligned
and therefore easier to make a C array).

> 
> with an additional NBD_STATE_DIRTY_HOLE or (DIRTY_DEALLOCATED)
> we could report the entire state using one query. The user could be
> able to read entire state which is useful for backup at once.
> 
> Your current proposal is more tricky and it was misunderstood by Alex:
> 
> +        * 32 bits, status flags
> 
> and you describe flags as
> 
> +      - `NBD_STATE_HOLE` (bit 0); if set, the block represents a hole

> +      - `NBD_STATE_ZERO` (bit 1), if set, the block contents read as

> 
> +      - `NBD_STATE_CLEAN` (bit 2); if set, the block represents a

> and opinion of Alex was that all 3 bits could be set in reply to
> NBD_CMD_BLOCK_STATUS
> with NBD_CMD_FLAG_STATUS_DIRTY set.
> 
> This confused him. This confuses me too.

There's nothing that says that NBD_STATE_CLEAN can't be reassigned to
bit 0.  Conversely, we may want to add a future NBD_CMD_FLAG_FOO that
lets you read allocation and dirty information in the same call, in
which case having the bits be distinct will make that easier; but where
we would also make it obvious that the server is allowed to reject that
command flag as unsupported (we already state the server can reject
NBD_CMD_FLAG_STATUS_DIRTY with EINVAL as unsupported; and that it if
does not reject a dirtiness request but cannot otherwise report
anything, then the entire region is reported as dirty).

I don't have any strong opinions on whether NBD_STATE_CLEAN should
remain bit 2 or be renumbered to bit 0, although renumbering it to bit 0
would make it painfully obvious that you cannot query allocation and
dirtiness at the same time.

> 
> If allocated state is not replied to command with NBD_CMD_FLAG_STATUS_DIRTY
> then why to have different meaning of bits.

Because we still have room - no need to overlap the meaning of bits as
long as we have more bits to choose from.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-04 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] doc: Add NBD_CMD_BLOCK_STATUS extension Eric Blake
2016-04-04 18:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 19:34   ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 19:54     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:03       ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 20:08         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:34           ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 21:06             ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 21:12             ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-05 14:15         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-05 15:01           ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-05 15:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-05 15:27               ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-05 15:31                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-04 23:08       ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-04 23:32         ` Eric Blake
2016-04-05  7:16           ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-05 21:44           ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-05  7:13         ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 19:58     ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 20:04       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:08         ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 20:13           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:15             ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 20:27               ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:45                 ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 21:04                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 21:12                     ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 21:17                     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2016-04-04 21:27                       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:26           ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 21:07             ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 21:25               ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 22:06                 ` Alex Bligh
2016-04-04 20:22       ` Eric Blake
2016-04-05 13:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-04 22:40 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-04 23:03   ` Eric Blake
2016-04-05 13:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-06  5:57     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-06 14:08       ` Eric Blake
2016-04-05  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2016-04-05 13:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-07 10:38     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-04-07 16:10       ` Eric Blake
2016-04-07 16:21         ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Alex Bligh
2016-04-08 11:35         ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2016-04-09  9:08         ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-13 12:38         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pavel Borzenkov
2016-04-13 14:40           ` Eric Blake
2016-04-07 15:35     ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-04-07 15:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-05  8:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-04-05  9:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Markus Pargmann
2016-04-05 13:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-11  5:58     ` Markus Pargmann
2016-04-05 14:14   ` Eric Blake
2016-04-05 20:50     ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-11  6:07       ` Markus Pargmann

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