From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar1C2-0000by-PB for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:41:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar1C1-0001Sr-JU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:41:42 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar1C1-0001RG-E3 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:41:41 -0400 From: Cole Robinson Message-ID: <5710C55E.3030000@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:41:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-rng and /dev/urandom List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: libvirt-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" , "Daniel P. Berrange" , Peter Krempa , Amit Shah , mik@miknet.net, jjaburek@redhat.com, hkario@redhat.com, sgrubb@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, Paolo Bonzini , Eric Blake Libvirt currently rejects using host /dev/urandom as an input source for a virtio-rng device. The only accepted sources are /dev/random and /dev/hwrng. This is the result of discussions on qemu-devel around when the feature was first added (2013). Examples: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-09/msg02387.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-03/threads.html#00023 libvirt's rejection of /dev/urandom has generated some complaints from users: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1074464 * cited: http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-March/msg01062.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2016-April/msg00186.html I think it's worth having another discussion about this, at least with a recent argument in one place so we can put it to bed. I'm CCing a bunch of people. I think the questions are: 1) is the original recommendation to never use virtio-rng+/dev/urandom correct? 2) regardless of #1, should we continue to reject that config in libvirt? Thanks, Cole